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« on: September 20, 2014, 06:51:54 pm »

Today's world of electronic everything means what US folk call "hustlers" can be found online. But those are top moneymakers.

In the old days, there were hustler bars where young men would hang out and hope to meet an older "john" for some spending money,
maybe more. Some gay, some strait, some homeless, they were horny, always potent, and enjoyed the sex and the money.

In NYC, Joe Dallesandro, in Trash-- a great Warhol film-- recommends to a young man that he hang out around a news stand at
E 53 St., where there were a couple of bars down the block full of available men, and where cars and pedestrians both would stop
to engage the services of available youth, sometimes high school jocks trying to get enough money to take their girl on a date later
that same night.

But now... Times Square is a Disneyfied tourist trap, the old bars on Eighth Ave. and in the Village seem to be gone, and I'm not even
sure one can still find peep shows with idle youth lounging for quick sex and quick cash right on the spot.

But I'm no longer in NYC very often, and don't even know what is going on in SF and L.A. anymore. I think WeHo ("Boys Town") has
been scoured of street strollers and maybe even Polk Street is gone.

But is that really true? Aren't horny youth still eager for money and blow jobs? High school students and Puerto Ricans were among
old-time favorites, but that was in another era, pre plague, with backroom bars and bathhouses (saunas) for frolics.

What goes on Now? Outside of adverts in weekly papers and online, where are the casual for-pay pickups? And whatever is happening
in major US cities, is there any similar activity in the U.K.? In Europe? Lots of Czech youth and others hard up for relief and beaten down
by the "austerian" jobless economy might be available, but so is a serious ass-kicking if someone gets offended. Hampstead Heath
may be no more or less safe than ever, and there has to be cottaging all over, right?

But I don't know these things, and this forum has knowledgeable folk who live and travel all over and who can answer these simple,
ignorant questions about gathering places and casual exchanges of meat and money.

Not long ago, I found a forum elsewhere in which the claim was made that "rough trade" meant, in NYC anyway, African-Americans
and Latinos. Some had a hard time believing that had not always been true, and that "trade" and "rough trade" had nothing to do
with race or social status and that the two-- trade, rough or not-- were very different. So the world changes and leaves the ignorant
behind. these days, even a good old-fashioned word like Cuckold, known for some 800 years or more, means something other than
a husband whose wife has cheated on him.

So I gotta ask for the wisdom, knowledge, and experience of my younger and better readers and hope there will be an informative and
lively discussion.

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« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 10:51:06 am »

I'm getting too old to know what goes on now... Smiley

But in my youth there was a rent boy scene around Picadilly Circus around the White Bear pub and the cottage (tearoom, toilets). Hampstead Heath was lively and there many cottages if you knew where to look (Holloway Road and the Iron Lung - I've forgotten where the latter was.

And all the pubs, Boltons, Coleherne.

In my home town there were a few cottages but no rent boys that I knew.

I don't know what youngsters of today do as they have closed most of the toilets here.
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« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 01:56:09 pm »

I'm in my late 30s and I've seen the Disneyfication of Boston, not relating to hustlers, but generally. I used to go to a porn theater with TWO SCREENS, one gay and one straight, in a location now occupied by a Starbucks and a bank (I think).

In terms of hustlers, I'm sure there are many factors leading to the loss of that scene. Could a major factor be inflation? $20 in 1970 had the same buying power as $122.60 does in 2014. 
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 06:05:56 pm »

Certainly the Disneyfication of Times Square turned the whole thing plastic, and whatever peep shows and theaters that exist in
the city, if any, have relocated. Maybe gloryholes are policed these days as well. But at least there used to be bars where horny
guys would gather to meet friendly older men for an evening. In Los Angeles, John Rechy called it "The City of Night," but there may
be no such place left on earth.

Did $20 in those days really turn into that much money today? No wonder some high school jock from Brooklyn or Queens could come
into town for a swift cash infusion to take his girl out later that same night. Did the plague really end all that and there really are no more
horny young guys in search of a quickie? Maybe there has been enough anti-repression in their lifetimes that it is easier and more acceptable
than ever to "just do it," but there seem to be a lot of men interested in at least getting blown by a man who knows how to do it.

And not all those who seem interested in experimenting or "doubling their chances of finding a date" on Saturday night are old men
so tired of not getting laid that they're willing to try anything.

Wish people who know about these things would spend some time explaining today's world to the rest of us.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 11:12:40 pm »

I too get the impression that I must be missing something with regard to this topic. Either guys are no longer engaging in sex acts for spending cash or they're referring to it by some mysterious name I have yet to come across. Obviously I get that there are top dollar hustlers/escort/massage but those are a different category in my book. I can only think in large cities of homeless/junkies who might be persuaded by smaller sums of money, there is an xtube account with a guy who has a couple of videos where such guys were willing for less than $20. Regardless I don't know where you would find those guys short of trolling the seediest neighborhoods etc. Today there is also the ever-present risk of getting caught up in some sort of police sting.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 05:56:04 am »

i'm not from USA, so i can't say where the rent boys are for you specifically.

What a remarkable time you just described, in which i would've like to taken part of at some point. Also seriously high school jocks? damn  Dick

Gone are the days i think you have mentioned. Like most of the others mentioned, i think you'd have to go to a seedy part of the city to find what you're looking for.

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Certainly the Disneyfication of Times Square turned the whole thing plastic, and whatever peep shows and theaters that exist in
the city, if any, have relocated. Maybe gloryholes are policed these days as well. But at least there used to be bars where horny
guys would gather to meet friendly older men for an evening. In Los Angeles, John Rechy called it "The City of Night," but there may
be no such place left on earth.

Not exactly.....you could go to third world countries. there is a very good chance of you finding what you're looking for there. I speak as someone unrelated to the oldest profession, but someone who lives in a third world country. Though i'm not exactly thrilled to be someone promoting sex tourism.....

I think Gay Gogo bars are the remnants of what you just described, but considering it's a gogo bar there's a good chance it'll turn into a sugar daddy type thing than the more casual thing you so eloquently explained. 

i really think i would've liked being a teenager at the time you keep alluding to. Though considering the whole Plague thing.........


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