LGBT Voters Favor Clinton Over Trump by Wide Margin: POLL
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« on: September 24, 2016, 04:29:51 pm »

Shocking. I know. Smiley

http://www.towleroad.com/2016/09/lgbt-voters/
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2016, 07:45:06 pm »

Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2016, 08:43:11 pm »

I live in Argentina, here in South America we suffered an epidemic of populism all along the subcontinent which nowadays feels OK again, after the disasters they made, especially in Venezuela and here, they are losing everysingle time... it seems both US and Europe are going through that now, it has unfortunately spread, let's hope you'll be luckier than we were and nothing wrong (EG wars) comes from this experience.
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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2016, 04:38:35 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2016, 08:23:05 am »

Supporters of either one of them should be ashamed.
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2016, 09:26:06 am »

Supporters of either one of them should be ashamed.

I completely agree.
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2016, 12:33:11 pm »

I would love to know what the bizarre alternate reality that the people who think that Hillary Clinton is anywhere near as horrible as Donald Trump lives in is like.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2016, 05:13:09 pm »

Hillary is a feminist to start with. 

She said that women were the real victims of war because their menfolk went off to war, while ignoring what happens to men in wars.   

She spouts well-worn feminist lies that have constantly been debunked, by the very government she way part of. 
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2016, 09:42:53 pm »

I would love to know what the bizarre alternate reality that the people who think that Hillary Clinton is anywhere near as horrible as Donald Trump lives in is like.


Is not an alternate reality is the same where you and the others are, is just that we are able to judge both of them instead of focusing on the one who has the most visible flaws.

Trump has a horrible public image: scandals, a horrible personality...you name it.  But in truth, Trump has actually profitted from this 'bad' media.  Being obnoxious and rude is kinda 'his thing'.  But remember that under that facade lies a shrewd businessman.

Hillary belongs to the political elite, they are taught to cover all their ugly business. But they do have, as they say 'skeletons in their closets'.  Heck! I'm sure after their administration is over, someone will find out juicy bits about the Obama family members even.

None of them are perfect, but it seems that US citizens (and some of other countries as well) are letting Trump's loud and obnoxious speech distract them from Hillary's own faults.

PS: Remember 'The Candidate Who Never Was': Bernie Sanders.

PPS: Dammit! Stupid GoT Lore sneaking up to my brain processes! D:<
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2016, 10:51:07 pm »

PS: Remember 'The Candidate Who Never Was': Bernie Sanders.

Bernie Sanders couldn't convince more DEMOCRATS to vote for him. And the Russians were already hacking specifically to support him, because they knew he'd be an easier target.

Sanders would have gone down in flames. The only reason Hillary lost was because of Comey, and even then she still won the popular vote by a landslide.
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2016, 10:55:25 pm »

Supporters of either one of them should be ashamed.

Oh bullshit. One of them was a smart, competent, qualified intellectual who has dedicated her life to the public good. The other is a shitty con artist who ran a campaign based solely on stoking racism, who has a string of failed businesses behind him and is already more corrupt than the worst nightmares anyone has ever had about the Clintons, and who has no understanding of even the most basic facts of reality and is currently destabilizing the entire globe.

So no, the only people who should be ashamed (besides Trump voters) are 3rd party and non-voters.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2016, 11:00:01 pm »


Bernie Sanders couldn't convince more DEMOCRATS to vote for him. And the Russians were already hacking specifically to support him, because they knew he'd be an easier target.


Serious? Most Americans I met online rather prefered Bernie Sanders... oh well...though I feel Hillary was an easy target too, after all, Bill smudged her due to his own scandals to some degree plus her own dirt that could be discovered.

Russian hackers? What is this?
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2016, 11:10:20 pm »

Serious? Most Americans I met online rather prefered Bernie Sanders

This is what we call "self-selecting bias." Bernie failed to win over Democrats, including the essential Democratic base of POC.

Russian hackers? What is this?

Have you not paid attention to the news for the last four months? It was brought up in a debate. Long story short Putin had his hackers hack the DNC to try to swing the primary to Sanders. He also hacked the RNC, but those leaks mysteriously never came out Roll Eyes. After the primary, then Putin hacked the Clinton campaign and started leaking everything they found. In both the DNC and the campaign hack there was actually nothing particularly salacious or noteworthy, however it resulted in a flurry of bad press.

So, yes, we do know that Russia was trying to get Bernie to win the primary, because they thought he would be more likely to lose than Clinton.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2016, 11:28:22 pm »

Explanation

I see...well, thanks for clearing that up for me.  And...nope, I haven't really paid attention to the news regarding Trump, since most of them are about how people hate him or think he will ruin the economy or how he is a danger to the known world.

That stuff turns out to be quite tiring after certain point. You must concede me that.

What I don't understand is why you guys make this issue bigger, all this media and all this bitterness...Do you really feel scared about Trump? All that loud speech is just populism, just promises...just 'fancy jargon to the masses'.  The President of the United States has to answer to others, he will be unable to deliver all he promised and you can start seeing it now.

If you really want to hit Trump hard, pressure him to deliver all his promises regarding the economy and America's well-being and hold him accountable if he doesn't.  All this bad rep some democrats are throwing at him could backfire if he happens to deliver.  So I say keep a discreet stance and analize his moves.
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« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2016, 01:02:15 am »

Supporters of either one of them should be ashamed.

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So no, the only people who should be ashamed (besides Trump voters) are 3rd party and non-voters.

Actually, it's the SJWs pushing all this lunatic crap, like "identity politics". 

It's also the same group of people that didn't vote because they thought they had it in the bag.   The same thing happened in the UK with Brexit.   

Look at all the hate and violence coming from the so-called "good" side. 
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« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2016, 01:05:07 am »

since most of them are about how people hate him or think he will ruin the economy or how he is a danger to the known world.

All of which is true. In fact, the sheer chaos of Trump's administration is already destabalizing the globe, and he hasn't even been inaugurated yet. It's nothing compared to the corruption, but it is still important.

That stuff turns out to be quite tiring after certain point. You must concede me that.

It might be tiring, but due to the FBI and geography the US elected a person who is a never ending disaster.

What I don't understand is why you guys make this issue bigger, all this media and all this bitterness...Do you really feel scared about Trump?

Trump's three most prominent campaign promises are: send Mexicans back to Mexico/build the wall, ban all Muslims from coming into the country, and a nation wide stop and frisk policy. He literally campaigned on kicking out Hispanics and Muslims and harassing black people out of public spaces. That is fucking terrifying.

Not all of us have the luxury of reacting to his explicit threats with "Well maybe he won't do the stuff he openly promised to." And by the by, once he's finished with black people, he's going to come after LGBT people.

Of course that is just domestically. Internationally he's already promised to expand America's nuclear arsenal, advocated for our military to commit war crimes, promised to revive 18th century colonialism, and said he'd go to war with just about every country on the planet. He isn't even inaugurated and China is already belligerently throwing its weight around.

So yeah, fucking terrifying.

All that loud speech is just populism, just promises...just 'fancy jargon to the masses'.

Ha! No. When politicians make public promises, they actually do their best to achieve them. Private behind the door promises are garbage and easily broken. It's the ones made in public that are binding. And he's staffed his cabinet with people that are going to implement the most extreme versions of his promises.

The President of the United States has to answer to others, he will be unable to deliver all he promised and you can start seeing it now.

The president of the US is only constrained by the norms that have accrued over 200 years. Trump doesn't even know the norms well enough to flout them. And he will be working with a congress that would approve killing every American's first born child if it meant they could do entitlement cuts.

If you really want to hit Trump hard, pressure him to deliver all his promises regarding the economy and America's well-being and hold him accountable if he doesn't.  All this bad rep some democrats are throwing at him could backfire if he happens to deliver.  So I say keep a discreet stance and analize his moves.

Well he can't deliver. His economic promises are all fairy tales. But George Bush also promised a lot of fairy tales and we wound up in a global depression with two (at the time) endless wars. That's about the best outcome from the Trump administration.
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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2016, 01:06:49 am »

Actually, it's the SJWs pushing all this lunatic crap, like "identity politics".

"White" and "male" are identities.
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« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2016, 01:19:27 am »

Actually, it's the SJWs pushing all this lunatic crap, like "identity politics".

"White" and "male" are identities.

You are correct.   However, you forgot to mention that white men are supposed to be self-loathing, according to SJW. 

Why does your side need to hide their faces when your side claims you are the good guys?    Back when I was young, I never hid my face or rioted.   
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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2016, 11:40:29 pm »

You are correct.   However, you forgot to mention that white men are supposed to be self-loathing, according to SJW. 

Yeah, none of this actually makes sense as a response to me. You really, really can't do anything except repeated random nonsense you picked up from across the right-wing internet.

Why does your side need to hide their faces when your side claims you are the good guys?    Back when I was young, I never hid my face or rioted.   

Well you should have. Maybe GTFO until you have read the Wikipedia entry on Stonewall before complaining about people rioting on a website about gay porn.
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« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2016, 12:30:40 am »

Actually, it's a direct and acurate response to you and your fellow SJWs.    You hate anyone who disagrees with you.   You claim that anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot who can only parrot the right wing.   You keep ignoring the act that your side does nothing but name call.  You never produce any evidence to back up your claims. 

AGAIN, if you people really think what you are doing is so good, then why do you need to hide your faces?!   Why do you need to assault the media who is covering what you are doing in a public space?!   

Stonewall was completely different from an election.   And as you seem to ignore, the Stonewall rioters didn't cover their faces.  Nor did they use "injustice" as a reason to loot. 
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