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« on: December 26, 2016, 02:03:29 am »

Has anyone met or talked to an actual SJW? One of those crazy feminist tumblr types you see on YT and reddit? I swear I hear people talking and bitching about SJWS than I ever actually meet or interact with SJWS.

Has anyone asked you 'did you assume my gender'?
Has anyone asked you to refer to them as 'Xe' or 'Xer'?

I feel like a large portion of the internet are getting extremely angry at a very small minority and they keeping being angry with eachother over the same shit. A circlejerk.

Can't we all just ignore this crap?
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2016, 02:21:57 am »

You are too limiting on what an SJW is.   

SJWs include feminists, BLM, "Just Believe", the "Slut Walk", "Take Back the Night" and many, many others.   

It's Norweign male politicians who apologize to their muslim rapist. 

It's Swedish feminist Left Party politicians that claims being raped by Swedish men is worse than being raped by muslims. 

It's the people that defend muslim "refugees" who rape 10yo boys because they had a "sexual emergency". 

It's the people who demand the media de-muslim/de-refugee media articles, like the Paris McDonald's killer story. 

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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2016, 02:47:09 am »

It's hard to ignore something when it starts to impact the cultural landscape beyond the Internet (and SJW-ism has done just that, if that weren't already glaringly obvious). Sadly, enough people got fed up with the "vocal minority" of narcissistic, lying, self-righteous, hypocritical social justice fruitcakes, and now we have Donald Trump as our president (Thanks, SJW's. Really proves how effective your tactics of shutting down "the opposition" have been). Partisan politics are just political football for insular, narcissistic assholes. That is precisely why the US political pendulum keeps swinging between idiotic extremes, instead of happy mediums.

Quite a few of my friends more or less fit into the SJW or SJW-parroting category. I just can't fucking talk to them about political shit. I just have to smile and nod and let them go on until they run out of steam.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2016, 02:58:10 pm »

You are too limiting on what an SJW is.   

SJWs include feminists, BLM, "Just Believe", the "Slut Walk", "Take Back the Night" and many, many others.   

It's Norweign male politicians who apologize to their muslim rapist. 

It's Swedish feminist Left Party politicians that claims being raped by Swedish men is worse than being raped by muslims. 

It's the people that defend muslim "refugees" who rape 10yo boys because they had a "sexual emergency". 

It's the people who demand the media de-muslim/de-refugee media articles, like the Paris McDonald's killer story. 



So anyone who disagrees with you?
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2016, 02:59:57 pm »

It's hard to ignore something when it starts to impact the cultural landscape beyond the Internet (and SJW-ism has done just that, if that weren't already glaringly obvious). Sadly, enough people got fed up with the "vocal minority" of narcissistic, lying, self-righteous, hypocritical social justice fruitcakes, and now we have Donald Trump as our president (Thanks, SJW's. Really proves how effective your tactics of shutting down "the opposition" have been). Partisan politics are just political football for insular, narcissistic assholes. That is precisely why the US political pendulum keeps swinging between idiotic extremes, instead of happy mediums.

Quite a few of my friends more or less fit into the SJW or SJW-parroting category. I just can't fucking talk to them about political shit. I just have to smile and nod and let them go on until they run out of steam.

Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2016, 03:09:14 pm »

yeah I've met a few, some are irritating and are too far left politically for my tastes, some are more centrists and fit with my political views
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2016, 03:55:26 pm »

You are too limiting on what an SJW is.  

SJWs include feminists, BLM, "Just Believe", the "Slut Walk", "Take Back the Night" and many, many others.  

It's Norweign male politicians who apologize to their muslim rapist.  

It's Swedish feminist Left Party politicians that claims being raped by Swedish men is worse than being raped by muslims.  

It's the people that defend muslim "refugees" who rape 10yo boys because they had a "sexual emergency".  

It's the people who demand the media de-muslim/de-refugee media articles, like the Paris McDonald's killer story.  



So anyone who disagrees with you?

Again, you are being too simplistic about it, which is typical for SJWs.  


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 Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.

I'm betting you don't notice them because they fit into your echo chamber and confirmation biases.  

These people are everywhere.  They are on TV (you can find a lot of the stuff copied to YouTube), they are all over mass media.    

SJWs routinely make it into mass media because they false flag themselves.  As it turns out, none of the rapes that made international news in the last 20 years was real.  The same goes for pro Trump violence.    But as the SJW campaign tells us; JUST BELIEVE.  

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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2016, 05:16:30 pm »

It's hard to ignore something when it starts to impact the cultural landscape beyond the Internet (and SJW-ism has done just that, if that weren't already glaringly obvious). Sadly, enough people got fed up with the "vocal minority" of narcissistic, lying, self-righteous, hypocritical social justice fruitcakes, and now we have Donald Trump as our president (Thanks, SJW's. Really proves how effective your tactics of shutting down "the opposition" have been). Partisan politics are just political football for insular, narcissistic assholes. That is precisely why the US political pendulum keeps swinging between idiotic extremes, instead of happy mediums.

Quite a few of my friends more or less fit into the SJW or SJW-parroting category. I just can't fucking talk to them about political shit. I just have to smile and nod and let them go on until they run out of steam.

Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.

If SJWs are as rare as you claim, then you have to explain Canada's Bill C-16.   

That's the bill that criminalizes people who refuse to call people by any made up personal pronoun they want to use, among other things.
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2016, 10:08:01 pm »

Of course I have... we all have. Now imagine how difficult it is to find friends in the Northeast USA, make a living in the theater and academic arenas, be a gay man married to a real-life Indian Chief AND be a person with less than the liberal talking points prevalent in today's society and an inability to let stupid shit be said without responding-- it isn't easy!  Crazy?
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 11:46:57 pm »


If SJWs are as rare as you claim, then you have to explain Canada's Bill C-16.   

That's the bill that criminalizes people who refuse to call people by any made up personal pronoun they want to use, among other things.

So if I refuse to call someone cisgender, or pansexual or non-binary, non comforming or whatever label they picked up in tumblr (no matter how little sense it makes to me) for themselves, then I'm commiting a hate crime?

Way to go Canada.... (It's all your fault USA, you infected the nice Canadians! D:< )

That's it. I'm going to Australia.
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 12:13:30 am »


If SJWs are as rare as you claim, then you have to explain Canada's Bill C-16.   

That's the bill that criminalizes people who refuse to call people by any made up personal pronoun they want to use, among other things.

So if I refuse to call someone cisgender, or pansexual or non-binary, non comforming or whatever label they picked up in tumblr (no matter how little sense it makes to me) for themselves, then I'm commiting a hate crime?

Way to go Canada.... (It's all your fault USA, you infected the nice Canadians! D:< )

That's it. I'm going to Australia.

I don't think it's quite that.   

The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns.    Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS.    Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.

Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden. 
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 12:28:12 am »


I don't think it's quite that.   

The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns.    Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS.    Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.

Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden. 

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still...dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2016, 01:45:47 am »


I don't think it's quite that.   

The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns.    Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS.    Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.

Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden. 

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still...dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...

This is a textbook example of what I'm trying to talk about. Extreme exaggeration to make this huge, everpresent enemy that doesn't really exist.

http://sds.utoronto.ca/blog/bill-c-16-no-its-not-about-criminalizing-pronoun-misuse/

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2016, 01:51:05 am »

You are too limiting on what an SJW is.  

SJWs include feminists, BLM, "Just Believe", the "Slut Walk", "Take Back the Night" and many, many others.  

It's Norweign male politicians who apologize to their muslim rapist.  

It's Swedish feminist Left Party politicians that claims being raped by Swedish men is worse than being raped by muslims.  

It's the people that defend muslim "refugees" who rape 10yo boys because they had a "sexual emergency".  

It's the people who demand the media de-muslim/de-refugee media articles, like the Paris McDonald's killer story.  



So anyone who disagrees with you?

Again, you are being too simplistic about it, which is typical for SJWs.  


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 Vocal Minority? To be honest, the only time I EVER hear about SJWs is when other people on the internet complain about them.

I'm betting you don't notice them because they fit into your echo chamber and confirmation biases.  

These people are everywhere.  They are on TV (you can find a lot of the stuff copied to YouTube), they are all over mass media.    

SJWs routinely make it into mass media because they false flag themselves.  As it turns out, none of the rapes that made international news in the last 20 years was real.  The same goes for pro Trump violence.    But as the SJW campaign tells us; JUST BELIEVE.  



Holy fucking shit, I'M the one in a fucking echo chamber???

You're the one that posts SJW bullshit all day on tis forum so that people can jack off with you on how bad SJWS are.
I'm the one in a fucking echochamber, jesus christ.

SJW seem to just be a convenient term to label anyone you don't like. And you are fucking obsessed - just as obsessed as SJWs are.
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2016, 01:54:07 am »

yeah I've met a few, some are irritating and are too far left politically for my tastes, some are more centrists and fit with my political views

Could you give specific examples? Something on the level of 'did you assume my gender' and 'xe and xer'?
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2016, 02:19:31 am »

I'm white and gainfully employed...so I don't have to care about social justice.

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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2016, 02:57:26 am »


I don't think it's quite that.   

The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns.    Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS.    Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.

Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden. 

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still...dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...

This is a textbook example of what I'm trying to talk about. Extreme exaggeration to make this huge, everpresent enemy that doesn't really exist.
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Did you even read that link?   

Just because there isn't a prison sentence assigned to this, it's still got plenty of punative measures in the courts.   It's nice how you try to make it appear that I lying about it.

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Holy fucking shit, I'M the one in a fucking echo chamber???

You're the one that posts SJW bullshit all day on tis forum so that people can jack off with you on how bad SJWS are.
I'm the one in a fucking echochamber, jesus christ.

SJW seem to just be a convenient term to label anyone you don't like. And you are fucking obsessed - just as obsessed as SJWs are.

Your desperation to deny that SJWs are common place shows that you are clearly in an echo chamber.  That, or you are being dishonest. 

I actually think that you are in an echo chamber and you don't notice SJWs because they fit your confirmation biases.    You clearly don't view all the SJW actions over the last decade as anything odd or bad. 

LOL, I think you mean like how your side loves to scream "Trump supporter", "racist", "homophobe" and everything else at anyone who disagrees with you. 

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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2016, 03:47:50 am »

I'm not gonna go too deep in what Social Justice means, I'm gonna stick to the category of SJW the OP referred to.

I use Tumblr (and occasionally Reddit) for about 6 years now and I can assume you that things are way worse than you think they are. Just an idea of what kind of arguments exist:
- PERSONAL PRONOUNS: people believe they can CREATE new personal pronouns in a language. Xe/xer, ye/yer, zee/zer, ey/eyr... LITERALLY EVERYONE CREATES THEIR OWN PRONOUNS. Guys, it doesn't work like that. Pronouns are core words and a closed category in a language. You don't just add or remove words that easily. It needs natural evolution of language to happen, and even then only the form of the pronoun may change and not the meaning. Plus, when it comes to gender-neutral pronouns, English is one of the few gender-languages that have gender-neutral pronouns: they/them/their(s). Yes, they are valid pronouns, and they are 100% grammatical and they have been used for ages. If you cannot conform yourself in a specific sex and you feel like using gender-neuter pronouns, stick to the ones that already exist and are canon.
- NEW SEXUALITIES, ROMANTICITIES, AND GENDERS: Iculasexual is not a sexuality. Scoliogender is not a gender. And otherkins (people who believe they are not human but something else, such as an animal, a plant, a mythical creature, a non-living thing, or even an idea) are a joke. And sadly, people on Tumblr and other places will reclaim that belonging to another species is a valid idea, and that includes people who think they are dragons, angels, chairs, or tampons. IF YOU DO ANY OF THOSE PLEASE STOP! You may think you promote equality, etc, but all you do is dehumanize and ridicule the queer spectrum, identity, and philosophy.
- SHAMING MAJORITIES: Tumblr users often try to fight racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, etc by attacking the majority. That means shaming people for being white, cisgender, heterosexual, male, fully-abled, mentally stable or neurotypical. THEY HAVE TO BE STOPPED.
- RADICAL FEMINISM: Fake "feminism", which is basically dehumanizing male individuals (see: misandry) to counterpart misogyny. Also dehumanizes females who take care of their body, use make-up, work in the sex industry, like sex and are proud of it, are attracted to men only, etc. The problem here is not that radical feminism exists. People can hate whomever they want. Just don't call your hate towards men "feminism" cause it makes real feminism (AKA gender EQUALITY) look bad. Which it's not.

BELIEVING IN ANY OF THOSE THINGS DOESN'T MAKE YOU "COOL" OR "RAD" OR "WOKE". IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID. Stop the madness, please.
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2016, 11:15:01 am »


I don't think it's quite that.   

The part I was referring to is the bit of C-16 that requires you to call someone by their personally chosen pronouns.    Traditionally, personal pronouns are HE, HIM, HIS, SHE, HER, HERS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEIRS.    Now it can literally be anything a person can imagine.

Excluding the muslim issue, Canada is only beaten for the SJW award by Sweden. 

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up. But still...dammit, human relationships are as complicated as they are without all this nonsense. And somehow they manage to tangle them up more...

This is a textbook example of what I'm trying to talk about. Extreme exaggeration to make this huge, everpresent enemy that doesn't really exist.
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Did you even read that link?   

Just because there isn't a prison sentence assigned to this, it's still got plenty of punative measures in the courts.   It's nice how you try to make it appear that I lying about it.

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Holy fucking shit, I'M the one in a fucking echo chamber???

You're the one that posts SJW bullshit all day on tis forum so that people can jack off with you on how bad SJWS are.
I'm the one in a fucking echochamber, jesus christ.

SJW seem to just be a convenient term to label anyone you don't like. And you are fucking obsessed - just as obsessed as SJWs are.

Your desperation to deny that SJWs are common place shows that you are clearly in an echo chamber.  That, or you are being dishonest. 

I actually think that you are in an echo chamber and you don't notice SJWs because they fit your confirmation biases.    You clearly don't view all the SJW actions over the last decade as anything odd or bad. 

LOL, I think you mean like how your side loves to scream "Trump supporter", "racist", "homophobe" and everything else at anyone who disagrees with you. 



Did you read it? You are over exaggerating to the extreme. No one will ever be jailed for using the wrong pronoun. YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL PEOPLE BY THEIR PRONOUNS EITHER. THE BILL DOESN'T FUCKING DO THAT.

Let me tell you what kind of chamber  I'm in - my college is FULL of people like you that constantly scream the tired 'TRIGGERED' meme all the time and it's the same in most places or with most people here. That's my point, I see people talk about SJWS and complain about them WAY more than I actually see one or interact with one.

I like how you ignored the part where I said that you were in an echo chamber.

And now you're saying things that I've never done because?
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2016, 11:15:37 am »

I'm not gonna go too deep in what Social Justice means, I'm gonna stick to the category of SJW the OP referred to.

I use Tumblr (and occasionally Reddit) for about 6 years now and I can assume you that things are way worse than you think they are. Just an idea of what kind of arguments exist:
- PERSONAL PRONOUNS: people believe they can CREATE new personal pronouns in a language. Xe/xer, ye/yer, zee/zer, ey/eyr... LITERALLY EVERYONE CREATES THEIR OWN PRONOUNS. Guys, it doesn't work like that. Pronouns are core words and a closed category in a language. You don't just add or remove words that easily. It needs natural evolution of language to happen, and even then only the form of the pronoun may change and not the meaning. Plus, when it comes to gender-neutral pronouns, English is one of the few gender-languages that have gender-neutral pronouns: they/them/their(s). Yes, they are valid pronouns, and they are 100% grammatical and they have been used for ages. If you cannot conform yourself in a specific sex and you feel like using gender-neuter pronouns, stick to the ones that already exist and are canon.
- NEW SEXUALITIES, ROMANTICITIES, AND GENDERS: Iculasexual is not a sexuality. Scoliogender is not a gender. And otherkins (people who believe they are not human but something else, such as an animal, a plant, a mythical creature, a non-living thing, or even an idea) are a joke. And sadly, people on Tumblr and other places will reclaim that belonging to another species is a valid idea, and that includes people who think they are dragons, angels, chairs, or tampons. IF YOU DO ANY OF THOSE PLEASE STOP! You may think you promote equality, etc, but all you do is dehumanize and ridicule the queer spectrum, identity, and philosophy.
- SHAMING MAJORITIES: Tumblr users often try to fight racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, etc by attacking the majority. That means shaming people for being white, cisgender, heterosexual, male, fully-abled, mentally stable or neurotypical. THEY HAVE TO BE STOPPED.
- RADICAL FEMINISM: Fake "feminism", which is basically dehumanizing male individuals (see: misandry) to counterpart misogyny. Also dehumanizes females who take care of their body, use make-up, work in the sex industry, like sex and are proud of it, are attracted to men only, etc. The problem here is not that radical feminism exists. People can hate whomever they want. Just don't call your hate towards men "feminism" cause it makes real feminism (AKA gender EQUALITY) look bad. Which it's not.

BELIEVING IN ANY OF THOSE THINGS DOESN'T MAKE YOU "COOL" OR "RAD" OR "WOKE". IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID. Stop the madness, please.

Could you give any example of this stuff in real life and not tumblr?
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