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« on: February 04, 2017, 08:04:28 am »

We already had the "white people go around" where mostly blacks formed a "wall" preventing white people from crossing the bridge to access the campus.  This meant that white students had to walk through a creek to get to class. 

Now we have the riots and violence, thanks to the peace loving left, just because they wanted to prevent the free speech rights of Milo, a gay jew migrant who loves black men. 
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2017, 09:09:24 am »

I don't like the violent protests at all.  The alt-right needs to get someone from the left to get on stage  with them and explain why they  deserve the right to free  speech like everybody else. 

Bill Maher has invited that Milo guy on his show.  Let's see if he shows up.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2017, 09:29:54 am »

The problem is, the left refuse to do anything other than get violent.   They don't want a dialogue.  They only want to silence those who disagree with them. 

Besides, where were the "alt-right" people at the women's march?   Kinda hypocritical to say that one side should do something, when the other side won't. 


I also notice that I always get a thumbs down when I point out the extreme hypocrisy of the left.
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 09:48:08 am »

That's only because the alt-right is outnumbered.  Far more people didn't vote for Trump than those that did.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 09:48:24 pm »

The difference was less than 1% of the US population. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2017, 03:09:24 am »

73 million people voted for someone else.  Plus if you add in the 3-5 million fraudulent votes he claims there were then the gap is even wider.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2017, 03:21:24 am »

The problem is, the left refuse to do anything other than get violent.   They don't want a dialogue.  They only want to silence those who disagree with them. 

Come on man, play fair. I don't see Nancy Pelosi pulling out her boxing gloves. I get that you don't agree but that statement isn't true. The majority of the protests were completely peaceful and lawful. I don't agree with the violent protests that have been occurring, that's wrong, but suggesting that all liberals refuse to do anything other than get violent is far from stretching the truth.

Milo Yiannopoulos is a troll. He has said it many times. He's not necessarily saying what he says because he believes it, he says it because he knows it riles people up. Personally, when I watch the guy, I just laugh at him. Some of things that come out his mouth are so ridiculous that I can't take him seriously. A migrant homosexual who dates African American men is a major voice in the Alt Right?

 Wow, get trolled harder...
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2017, 03:26:10 am »

It's pretty obvious he is a troll just by his wardrobe.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2017, 03:58:27 am »

Come on man, play fair. I don't see Nancy Pelosi pulling out her boxing gloves. I get that you don't agree but that statement isn't true. The majority of the protests were completely peaceful and lawful. I don't agree with the violent protests that have been occurring, that's wrong, but suggesting that all liberals refuse to do anything other than get violent is far from stretching the truth.

Milo Yiannopoulos is a troll. He has said it many times. He's not necessarily saying what he says because he believes it, he says it because he knows it riles people up. Personally, when I watch the guy, I just laugh at him. Some of things that come out his mouth are so ridiculous that I can't take him seriously. A migrant homosexual who dates African American men is a major voice in the Alt Right?

 Wow, get trolled harder...

Problem is, the so called liberals just stomped over that free speech Americans say to love so much.

Milos Yiannopulos may be a troll, but he has the right to speak and be listened by those who are interested in what he has to say.  The Berkeley students practically stopped him from even uttering a word, they prevented him from speaking.

All I see is that Universities in the USA are not a place to engage into discussion or pit ideas against each other, since the students have such a thin skin that they won't even allow expressions of thought that clash with theirs. The so called 'Safe Spaces' at their best.

Where is the growth if you don't face different ideas?  How this little crybabies snowflakes survive in the real world?
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2017, 04:51:10 am »

But  this man doesn't have ideas.   He  just spews hatred to get attention.  Look at what he did to Leslie Jones.  I'm sure he has been able to sell books because of it.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2017, 07:16:45 am »

Problem is, the so called liberals just stomped over that free speech Americans say to love so much.

Milos Yiannopulos may be a troll, but he has the right to speak and be listened by those who are interested in what he has to say.  The Berkeley students practically stopped him from even uttering a word, they prevented him from speaking.

All I see is that Universities in the USA are not a place to engage into discussion or pit ideas against each other, since the students have such a thin skin that they won't even allow expressions of thought that clash with theirs. The so called 'Safe Spaces' at their best.

Where is the growth if you don't face different ideas?  How this little crybabies snowflakes survive in the real world?

That's not how that works. He could have spoke. He pulled out because he was scared of "liberals" physically attacking him. They didn't prevent him from speaking. I think that's hilarious. I'm sure liberals think it's was a win and I know the alt right people feel that it was proof that liberals want to deny people their rights even thought that isn't what happened. He tries to stir up anger and he got what he wanted.

I do think the "safespaces thing" is ridiculous myself. You have to understand, that's the corporate answer to problems they can't solve. It's a business to them, they're just supplying the demand. I'm sure they think it's ridiculous too.

As far as not facing different ideas: Look the Bannon camp is terrified of large groups of Muslims making the US their home. There's plenty of evidence in Europe that this is unpopular or at the very least, disliked. I understand their concerns and realize that the majority of Americans would not want to wake up in a country that expanded it's population by 100 million because 100 million Muslims decided to immigrate. That fear isn't rational and pretending they're all terrorists isn't going to work either. They've also tried to spread lies like "Their values are incompatible with western culture." I didn't realize that not wanting to live in a bad country, wanting a decent job, and wanting to own a home was "incompatible" with their religion.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2017, 10:36:56 am »

73 million people voted for someone else.  Plus if you add in the 3-5 million fraudulent votes he claims there were then the gap is even wider.

The difference between Trump and the other 3 candidates combines was 2% of the US population. 

You can't honestly say that only Trump got fraudulent votes.

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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2017, 10:42:36 am »

I don't think he got them all but he likely got most of the fraudulent votes.  He did win after all and he did tell us it was rigged.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2017, 10:43:08 am »

The problem is, the left refuse to do anything other than get violent.   They don't want a dialogue.  They only want to silence those who disagree with them. 

Come on man, play fair. I don't see Nancy Pelosi pulling out her boxing gloves. I get that you don't agree but that statement isn't true. The majority of the protests were completely peaceful and lawful. I don't agree with the violent protests that have been occurring, that's wrong, but suggesting that all liberals refuse to do anything other than get violent is far from stretching the truth.

Milo Yiannopoulos is a troll. He has said it many times. He's not necessarily saying what he says because he believes it, he says it because he knows it riles people up. Personally, when I watch the guy, I just laugh at him. Some of things that come out his mouth are so ridiculous that I can't take him seriously. A migrant homosexual who dates African American men is a major voice in the Alt Right?

 Wow, get trolled harder...


BUT, it was liberals that said that if Trump lost, the alt right would riot and do all manner of violence.   And here you guys are doing exactly what you said about your opponents.  

I noticed that you guys love to cover your faces too.  Be proud in what you do.  

I've also been seeing liberals justifying the violence by their side.  

The DNC is on the verge of being nothing but white haters.
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2017, 10:47:35 am »

I don't think he got them all but he likely got most of the fraudulent votes.  He did win after all and he did tell us it was rigged.

I think you mean; rigged like the DNC primary so Hillary would win. 

I think you mean; rigged like in the mass media ignoring stories that made Hillary and liberals look bad.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2017, 02:51:35 pm »

That's not how that works. He could have spoke. He pulled out because he was scared of "liberals" physically attacking him. They didn't prevent him from speaking. I think that's hilarious. I'm sure liberals think it's was a win and I know the alt right people feel that it was proof that liberals want to deny people their rights even thought that isn't what happened. He tries to stir up anger and he got what he wanted.

Then I ask you: If you can't speak your mind because you fear physical retaliation, isn't that too an affront to free speech?  So, that's how liberals operate: intimidation in order to prevent free speech from happening in the first place, and hence they are not spitting against free speech...how rich...I bet they feel like some juridic geniouses.


As far as not facing different ideas: Look the Bannon camp is terrified of large groups of Muslims making the US their home. There's plenty of evidence in Europe that this is unpopular or at the very least, disliked. I understand their concerns and realize that the majority of Americans would not want to wake up in a country that expanded it's population by 100 million because 100 million Muslims decided to immigrate. That fear isn't rational and pretending they're all terrorists isn't going to work either. They've also tried to spread lies like "Their values are incompatible with western culture." I didn't realize that not wanting to live in a bad country, wanting a decent job, and wanting to own a home was "incompatible" with their religion.

Muslims aren't an idea, they are a reality.  The fear is rational, though not all Muslims are terrorists, that doesn't mean some who actually are won't get mixed with the asylum seekers and enter.  More severe screening processes are required.  But liberals tend to backlash so intensely, that now they want to allow everyone to enter.

And some of their values are incompatible with western culture.  You may let them enter the USA, they get a nice house and a decent work...still they will consider homosexuals an affront to their religion and act accordingly: shunning you or beating you. Pick your poison.
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2017, 02:59:34 pm »

I don't think he got them all but he likely got most of the fraudulent votes.  He did win after all and he did tell us it was rigged.

I think you mean; rigged like the DNC primary so Hillary would win. 

I think you mean; rigged like in the mass media ignoring stories that made Hillary and liberals look bad.

I don't understand this whole idea that Hillary didn't get any coverage.  She was in the news non-stop for Benghazi, emails, body double, her health issues, etc.  It never stopped. You are being brainwashed into believing this.

Conway proved the brainwashing this week when  she talked about Bowling Green.  Let's say for the sake of argument that she misspoke and she meant to say "Bowling Green Terrorists". 

If you listen to her entire statement she is complaining that the media didn't give this any coverage.  Well the Bowling Green terrorists were caught and therefore this is an accomplishment for the Obama administration.  Why would she complain that positive stories about Obama didn't get media attention?

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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2017, 05:37:21 pm »

Then I ask you: If you can't speak your mind because you fear physical retaliation, isn't that too an affront to free speech?  So, that's how liberals operate: intimidation in order to prevent free speech from happening in the first place, and hence they are not spitting against free speech...how rich...I bet they feel like some juridic geniouses.

Did anybody attack him? No. Nobody stopped him from speaking. He chose not to. The army of police outside the building would have kept the protestors out.

He canceled the speech to make an issue about how the protestors were "infringing on his rights to free speech" and made national news because the majority of Americans wants to see him get punched in the face. So a guy from the UK is here to tell Americans what to think? Trump's campaign did this with Nigel Farage as well and it made just about as much little sense. This isn't their country, I have no idea why anybody is listening to them.

Also, I'm not a liberal...

Muslims aren't an idea, they are a reality.  The fear is rational, though not all Muslims are terrorists, that doesn't mean some who actually are won't get mixed with the asylum seekers and enter.  More severe screening processes are required.  But liberals tend to backlash so intensely, that now they want to allow everyone to enter.

And some of their values are incompatible with western culture.  You may let them enter the USA, they get a nice house and a decent work...still they will consider homosexuals an affront to their religion and act accordingly: shunning you or beating you. Pick your poison.

Yeah... Uh... Religious groups in the country right now have historically done the same thing. Your point isn't valid. Catholics are far more dangerous then Muslims, or did you miss that history lesson? You either understand what's going on or you drank the cool-aid and believe the Bullshit. Sounds like that latter, since I already explained that's a lie and you're just repeating it like a parrot. You didn't come up with that on your own. When was the last time you remember a Muslim shunning and beating up a homosexual in the US?

I'm not for allowing everybody into the country or against vetting immigrants, but the election is over, it's time people to come back to reality. If you don't want Muslims in the country, admit it, and stop pretending that you are going to somehow be safer. That's a lie.
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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2017, 08:20:26 pm »

Umm, they were smashing up the building Milo was in and setting it on fire to prevent him from speaking. 

I guess the girl who got pepper sprayed while speaking to the media wasn't prevented from speaking either, she just chose to stop doing the interview because of a minor thing. 

I guess the 2 "nazis" could have left and the fact that they got beated down and were repeated beaten, 1 while unconscious on the ground. 


Talk about liberal apologetics.   
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2017, 12:31:07 am »

BUT, it was liberals that said that if Trump lost, the alt right would riot and do all manner of violence.   And here you guys are doing exactly what you said about your opponents. 

I noticed that you guys love to cover your faces too.  Be proud in what you do. 

I've also been seeing liberals justifying the violence by their side. 

The DNC is on the verge of being nothing but white haters.

Who is "You guys?" I'm not a liberal as I already stated that in the thread and I'm not out there protesting. I'm not defending them and I'm not going to defend Milo either. The protestors were out of line and Milo could have spoke, rescheduled, whatever.

Umm, they were smashing up the building Milo was in and setting it on fire to prevent him from speaking. 

I guess the girl who got pepper sprayed while speaking to the media wasn't prevented from speaking either, she just chose to stop doing the interview because of a minor thing. 

I guess the 2 "nazis" could have left and the fact that they got beated down and were repeated beaten, 1 while unconscious on the ground. 

Talk about liberal apologetics.   

I personally think Milo should go home and worry about his own country, we have enough hypocrisy here. He's not going to because the only thing he cares about is his next book deal... So we have an immigrant teaching people about white privilege... This is absolutely nothing more than a person saying "Look at me I'm gay and I say crazy shit." No change will ever come of this, other than a group of people sticking their necks out and having the majority paint target signs on them.

Also, what world do you live in where anybody who has something to say that you don't like automatically becomes a liberal? From my perspective, you sound like you're part of the problem. There's different groups of people that for the most part, want the same thing, and they have different ideas about how to achieve that. If you want to lash out at "liberals" on a site that is most likely, primarily liberals, I mean that's your choice right? It does absolutely nothing, but you're going to do it anyways...

Trump had a bunch of ideas that seemed like decent ideas to me, but he's hasn't made any progress on any of those ideas yet. I think it would be a great idea for him to do things like : Fixing real problems that don't involve pissing off the majority of the United States.

3.5 Million people have Hep C and the medication to save their lives costs $85,000 to purchase and $100 to produce. It would be cheaper to just buy the company and hand the medication out at cost, which isn't going to happen, and people are going to die.

Methamphetamine and Heroin addiction rates are the highest in US history, building a wall isn't going to stop anything. They manufacture climbing ropes in Mexico...

Just under 1% of the US population is in Prison. That's really working out great...

The deficit should ideally go down and real conservatives usually push hard to, you know, reduce spending... Not Trump though, every single plan I've heard the guy mention involves ballooning the debt... It sounds really weird coming from a "Republican."

It doesn't sound like the ACA is going away but I think there's some changes that would be really beneficial and the Republicans don't sound like they have a plan.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg of problems that under Trump's presidency can be solved or at the very least, progress towards solutions can occur. Yet he's focusing on problems that are effective solutions to preventing attacks from the Boogeyman, in a country where more veterans commit suicide every week than die from Muslim terrorists annually. But, hey, at least mentally ill veterans can buy guns now...

I'm certainly not against who want to band together and make borderline racist comments to draw attention to themselves, you're allowed, it's America. I am certainly against terrible ideas and getting nothing accomplished. Milo making a speech doesn't do anything for America and bitching about the violet protestors on a forum doesn't either.

I don't care if you're alt-right/neo-nazi/federalist/republican/conservative/libertarian/moderate/democrat/liberal/pirate/socialist/green/communist/space-alien-party whatever... Call your reps up and bitch that there are real problems in America and Donald isn't fixing shit, that you're pissed, the things he's doing are not helping anybody, and it's ridiculous.
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