So called President Trump: "Nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated"
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« on: February 28, 2017, 02:59:10 am »

So called President Trump is surprised that healthcare is complicated.  In fact he thinks that "nobody  knew it" which is strange because EVERYBODY knows it! Just ask anyone who has ever opened up a medical bill or had to call an insurance company. 

During the election he said he had a plan to fix healthcare.  He told it was "something terrific"......I guess he just said that to get elected.

I think he is finally realizing that ObamaCare is the Republican plan and it's already as conservative as it can be.  Any plan that covers everyone has to lean left of where we are currently.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 03:26:19 am »

I believe the Republican plan will ultimately be to have a hybrid law in place, where they keep Medicaid expanded in the Republican states that have expanded it and bringing back the old system that was in place before ACA. It's a big gamble and maybe they'll win big from it. If not and millions lose their health insurance for even a few months, Republicans will pay a hefty price. Remember, there were a lot of states with Democratic governors, state legislatures and U.S. Congressmen before President Obama took office and Republicans had him there to unify their base---plus conservative Democrats who saw him as too progressive---against him. Well, he's no longer president, #45 is. This can either go one way or in a whole other direction at this point.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 03:34:41 am »

I don't think you can go back to the old system at this point.  You can't take away healthcare for the most vulnerable ObamaCare patients (sick people).  If you leave Medicaid expansion in place you will bankrupt some states in no time at all  The thing that I hate most about our current system is that Medicaid is a "safety net".  For a lot of people who are sick they sometimes have to quit their jobs in order to qualify for Medicaid.   Not everyone who gets sick necessarily has to stop working if they are able to get healthcare.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2017, 10:16:41 am »

I agree Medicaid should not be a safety net where people who get seriously ill have to quit work just to qualify for it. The problem is exactly what you said in the first post of this thread, ACA aka Obamacare is the healthcare plan Republicans used to endorse before President Obama endorsed it. They've put themselves in a serious box but they seem to think they have enough room, as well as political capital, to have this fight. One of their biggest problems is going to be distancing themselves from what #45 promised. He promised coverage for everyone and a competitive market place for health insurance that will lower premiums, and that the government would pay for it after he made significant savings in other areas. He said that in a televised interview seen by millions and millions of people. That is a huge promise that he made and Republicans have to figure out a way to subtract that from what they want to do. If they even think of attempting to make good on the promise #45 made, they will lose their corporate sponsorship and those who don't worry about their health insurance because they have the money will jump ship as well. There are people who voted for Agent Orange who do not like ACA because it didn't effect them at all but it has President Obama all over it and they want it gone.
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2017, 04:14:35 pm »

A funny thing about history is that people often forget about it and how it makes things ironic.  

Romney invented "Obama-care".    Democrats didn't like Romney-care until it became Obama-care.

And it doesn't mean I like Trump.  Crazy?
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2017, 01:19:52 am »

A funny thing about history is that people often forget about it and how it makes things ironic. 

Romney invented "Obama-care".    Democrats didn't like Romney-care until it became Obama-care.

And it doesn't mean I like Trump.  Crazy?

I disagree.  Romney passed the healthcare reform bill with a Democratic state legislature.  I'm not sure of the exact number it was in 2006 but the MA state legislature is always 70%+ Democrat.

There are some differences.  The biggest one is that MA expanded Medicaid in the 90's via a Medicaid waiver.  The state already covered poor childless adults so ObamaCare didn't suddenly force that cost onto states.  It happened a decade before RomneyCare so there was no sticker shock like the rest of the country saw.

The other difference is that RomneyCare had a rule that if your employer offered health insurance then you had to take it.  You were not allowed to buy from the exchanges or go on Medicaid.  If you qualified for Medicaid the state would reimburse you for some or all of your private insurance premium.  The state decided to repeal this part of the state law when ObamaCare went into effect.  It was a mistake and now the Medicaid roles have increased substantially.  This policy should be adopted at the federal level.  It would help to fix a lot of the mess that has been created.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2017, 08:59:49 am »

If you go back, on a national level, Democrats were critical of Romney-care. 
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