Would/Have you ever out someone who is in the closet ?
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« on: April 03, 2017, 04:16:54 pm »

Well since coming out is an important step for many of us. And I know people sometimes can act like bitches yes we men also gossip. afraid

So I wanna know that have you out someone who was in the closet or would you ever do it if you know someone who is doing it behind closed doors. How does gossip like so and so celebrity is gay also comes. Someone's is always an instigator there. Weather the allegation is true or not people just call out certain celebrities for the way they act or the ppl they hangout with even if they are openly LGBT.

For e.g ppl always call Will Smith gay and his wife Jada Pinkett a lesbian, same is for Queen Latifah and I think people also used to call Sophie B Hawkins the singer a lesbian back in the 90's but now she is happily married and have kids. So we are all ears. Out with it.  Blind
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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 09:38:18 pm »

So I wanna know that have you out someone who was in the closet or would you ever do it if you know someone who is doing it behind closed doors. How does gossip like so and so celebrity is gay also comes. Someone's is always an instigator there. Weather the allegation is true or not people just call out certain celebrities for the way they act or the ppl they hangout with even if they are openly LGBT.

For e.g ppl always call Will Smith gay and his wife Jada Pinkett a lesbian, same is for Queen Latifah and I think people also used to call Sophie B Hawkins the singer a lesbian back in the 90's but now she is happily married and have kids. So we are all ears. Out with it.  Blind

Nope, because it's all about respect, and I respect their privacy as much as I respect mine.  angel
It's a different case however, if he/she's an annoying prick who has been trying to out me first. Then I might simply give them hell.  Evil

As for celebrities, well... from what I can tell (a colleague used to work in local showbiz), they actually know each other sexuality much better than their fans. So their circle of friends highly likely already aware about it, but decided to stay silent because exposing them would have negative effects on their careers as well. Heck, they don't want to risk being outed as well.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 11:01:03 pm »

I've never knowingly outed someone and I doubt I ever will. What's more is that doing so, I feel, would reflect poorly on me...
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« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 12:26:34 am »

No I haven't and neither would I ever, and a person has got to be a particular kind of nasty to do something like that to someone else.

Generally speaking, if someone's in the closet, it's either because they're having trouble accepting their sexuality (and in that case support and advice would go a much longer way than forcibly outing them), or they're just not safe to be out entirely, and by doing that, you could be jeopardizing their well-being or even their life. That could mean anything from their parents kicking them out after finding out, or sending them to some conversion therapy crap to try to get them "cured", or them losing their job, or even ending up targeted with homophobic violence.

If they're the ones trying to out you, then I suppose I couldn't care less what happens to them, but I'd still say for the sake of principle, if you have better ways of dealing with that than sinking to their level, those would probably be a better choice, in my opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2017, 05:10:57 pm »

People can marry a partner of another sex and still be gay; they can even have children and still be gay. It's not that uncommon, even though some seem to think it never happens. It's hugely common and was vastly widespread until fairly recently. And with the see-saw of social status and acceptance, it waxes and wanes. People marrying in a hetero way or having kids doesn't mean they're not gay. Sometimes it just means that they're seriously in the closet or in denial.

Regardless, more pertinent to the original question here: yes, I'd certainly out someone...but only if they were in a position of power and were oppressing people for likewise inborn traits. You don't get the luxury of hiding in the closet if you're abusing your status to keep others down or cause harm to them.

Other than that, though, I can't see much reason to out someone. Most of the time, it's a personal matter. I don't even think gays should out themselves in every case. Sometimes, if you know it's not going to go well and your very survival is endangered, it's certainly not worth it; you're more use staying alive and using your position of stability to help with the fight.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2017, 11:24:51 pm »

Yes I agree with you all it is really sad to force this on someone who is not ready I recently read about two contestants on the tv show Survivor and one of them being a transgender but had never revealed it to anyone during the judgement the other fellow asked him on tv in front of millions watching that why haven't you told anyone that you are a transgender. It was really sickening to me to see that so I was just being inquisitive that do people in real life also do that  afraid
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2017, 05:45:25 am »

Never.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2017, 12:56:50 pm »

never..  that's rude
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2017, 12:11:53 pm »

yes
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2017, 01:38:15 pm »

never, thats just rude!
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2017, 02:24:35 pm »

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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2017, 08:56:08 pm »

never, thats just rude!

I don't think you really meant that in all cases.

For instance.. some people need to be outed.. such as:
Tom Cruise
Kirk Cameron
Justin Bieber
Cruise and Cameron will probably never come out.. but Justin will probably come out soon.

Cruise is actually sterile due to chemotherapy as a teenager.. that is why he has no biological children.  If that
Suri is his biological child - then it is a test tube baby.

Many times, fag bashers are in fact closet homosexuals. 

Supposedly, 10% of people are exclusively gay, whereas 35% of people are bisexual.  That's a lot of people!
By the way.. here are 6 people who are said to be gay, who are actually bisexual:  Elton John, David Bowie, Freddy Mercury, Boy George, Anthony Perkins, and Graham Chapman (Monty Python - who died of CANCER not AIDS).
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2017, 03:40:12 am »

It becomes difficult due to the Glass Closet.

If someone is completely in the closet and asks for his/her/their privacy to be respected; I would respect their decisions without agreeing with them.

But what about people who are 'out' to the Gay community but not public with the straight community?  Colton Haynes, Ellen Degeneres, Jodie Foster, Thomas Dekker, and Ricky Martin were all widely known to be homosexual long before they did interviews in mainstream magazines 'coming out.'  My shock when Barry Manilow came out was that it had taken him so long.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2017, 02:52:45 am »

Everyone has a right to live as they see fit and how they would like to live. As long as that person isn't being a hypocrite and condemn gays or taking actions that are hurtful to gay men (such as politicians who have gay sex but rule against gay legislation) - then there is no reason to out someone. It's their life, not yours.
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2017, 12:51:31 pm »

no, i would never do it if they did not want to or if they were not ready!!
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2017, 05:34:36 pm »

I think that would be a really nastu move to do that to someone. I think you should only come out if you're ready. As someone mentioned, it could have very negative consequences for the person that you force to come out. And coming out is a choice. Not everyone must come out.
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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2017, 06:32:08 am »

So I wanna know that have you out someone who was in the closet or would you ever do it if you know someone who is doing it behind closed doors. How does gossip like so and so celebrity is gay also comes. Someone's is always an instigator there. Weather the allegation is true or not people just call out certain celebrities for the way they act or the ppl they hangout with even if they are openly LGBT.

For e.g ppl always call Will Smith gay and his wife Jada Pinkett a lesbian, same is for Queen Latifah and I think people also used to call Sophie B Hawkins the singer a lesbian back in the 90's but now she is happily married and have kids. So we are all ears. Out with it.  Blind

Nope, because it's all about respect, and I respect their privacy as much as I respect mine.  angel
It's a different case however, if he/she's an annoying prick who has been trying to out me first. Then I might simply give them hell.  Evil

As for celebrities, well... from what I can tell (a colleague used to work in local showbiz), they actually know each other sexuality much better than their fans. So their circle of friends highly likely already aware about it, but decided to stay silent because exposing them would have negative effects on their careers as well. Heck, they don't want to risk being outed as well.

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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2017, 11:43:50 am »

yes
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