Macron elected new president of France (kindof)
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« on: April 23, 2017, 08:01:32 pm »

Macron 23.7%
Le pen 22%

Le pen cannot for so many reasons beat him on the 2d round in 2 weeks so Macron can already be acknowledge as new president.

I'm so ashamed.
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 10:00:29 pm »

It seems so that Macron will win and I'm all for him, but we can't be certain just yet. This election is expecting an 80% participation rate which puts Macron as the likely winner. The US suffers in the arena since we can ever barely get a 50% participation rate. Republicans for decades have been gerrymandering and quelling votes. Look at a map of election results over the last 50 years and you'll find 13 red states that never change their vote whereas all blue states have voted republican before. It would be better to say blue states were voting for candidate whereas the red states were only for party. Technically District of Columbia has only voted blue but its not a state so I can omit it. If we could up participation rates in voting to 80% there would be know Trump. There is a reason republicans heavily support the electoral college over the popular vote. Look at a 3D election map of the US. on a 3D scale red districts are nearly invisible. This is a joke republicans have given a political reality because their are actually districts in the US with only a population of 40 and towns with a population of 1.
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2017, 10:20:48 pm »

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This election is expecting an 80% participation rate
Yes BUT remember they only count 80% of people who declared themselves. Meaning they are 9 millions people not counted because they are not registered to get a card to vote ( in 2012 : 3 millions were not registered and 6 millions incorrectly and couldn't vote). so the participation is in reality much less than 80 %.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2017, 11:27:06 pm »

They will all gang up against her. I so hate Macron... if only Strauss-Kahn hadn't fucked up.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2017, 04:19:44 pm »

How can you hate Macron? He's like crème brûlée - bland, tasteless, inoffensive. Sweet and safe to feed to small children and sick people. The least divisive of all possible dessert-options.  Nobody loves it. Nobody even really enjoys it. But you can't hate it because there's nothing there to hate.
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2017, 08:03:33 pm »

How can you hate Macron? He's like crème brûlée - bland, tasteless, inoffensive. Sweet and safe to feed to small children and sick people. The least divisive of all possible dessert-options.  Nobody loves it. Nobody even really enjoys it. But you can't hate it because there's nothing there to hate.

Unfortunately the atmosphere of late with political elections has left people drawing ire towards even mild candidates when a "peculiar" candidate like (Trump) Le Pen is serving as the opponent. Populist are stoking fires and exaggerating the reality of things and this is creating infighting among groups that are growing more and more divided.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2017, 08:11:03 pm »

Macron 23.7% Cheers
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« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2017, 08:43:16 pm »

How can you hate Macron? He's like crème brûlée - bland, tasteless, inoffensive. Sweet and safe to feed to small children and sick people. The least divisive of all possible dessert-options.  Nobody loves it. Nobody even really enjoys it. But you can't hate it because there's nothing there to hate.

If candidate X is supposedly divisive, it means that society is already divided and gave that particular candidate a mainstream platform. Electing  candidate Y because he's the least divisive won't make society any more united, it will more likely increase the divisiveness within society, particularly if candidate Y dismisses the concerns of the people who support candidate X. Governments have an obligation to the people they represent and to reconcile different perspectives and bring everyone to the centre.

I think there are many reasons to dislike or distrust Macron, including his failure to deliver as finance minister (he was the architect of the current - and failed - economic plan) and his support for the normalization of terrorism. He's extremely inexperienced in matters of security and he'll lead a country that's currently under state of emergency - the recipe for disaster.

Personally, I wouldn't trust a guy whose party's acronym are his own initials. He screams elitism and hypocrisy. 
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2017, 09:20:27 pm »

How can you hate Macron? He's like crème brûlée - bland, tasteless, inoffensive. Sweet and safe to feed to small children and sick people. The least divisive of all possible dessert-options.  Nobody loves it. Nobody even really enjoys it. But you can't hate it because there's nothing there to hate.

Unfortunately the atmosphere of late with political elections has left people drawing ire towards even mild candidates when a "peculiar" candidate like (Trump) Le Pen is serving as the opponent. Populist are stoking fires and exaggerating the reality of things and this is creating infighting among groups that are growing more and more divided.

I laugh at this notion that "populist" politicians fuel hatred among different groups. As if millions of people wake up one day and decide they will "hate" certain type of people. 

I'd like to see specific quotes or policies from Le Pen that are supposedly hateful.

It's interesting how people demonize Le Pen and Trump yet ignore that in supposedly "progressive" Germany there were 3,500 attacks on refugees last year. There are more hate crimes against immigrants in Germany than in the US, despite the massive difference in terms of population. But instead of dealing with their own problems, German officials bash Trump and Americans for their choice of president.

This groupthink and pathological denialism of their own problems will come at a high cost for Western European countries.
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