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« on: May 05, 2017, 06:50:00 am »

I know that  most people love to ridicule "conspiracy theories" as being nothing more than bullshit.   In many cases this is true. 

People love to say that no CT has ever been proven.  Well, that is partly true.   A proven CT is no longer a CT, but history.   

Several years ago, on a political site, I did a thread were I posted well over 400+ former CTs which are now part of history. 

Thanks to Bill Clinton declassifying a ton of documents, we learned that many CTs were in fact true, such as secretly testing radiation affects on hospital patients or spraying chemicals over small towns to test chemicals on people. 

In the UK, MI5/MI6 finally admitted that they did, in fact, actively try to destroy Harold Wilson and his administration.

This applies to all sides of the political debate.   Don't just totally dismiss a CT because it's not proven, because one day it just might be the actual truth.


« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2017, 08:58:10 am »

spraying chemicals over small towns to test chemicals on people.
yes the CIA did a great job in france with LSD ( or more likely a chemical weapon derived from it)  at Pont-Saint-Esprit.(France ) in 1951, Projet MK-Ultra.


« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2017, 10:19:39 am »

I didn't know they did it in France, but I knew they did it in the US, Canada and a few others. 

The CIA still officially denies MK-Ultra (and pretty much everything else), despite GWB releasing the final set of documents in July 2001.  I believe it was in 1979 that the document by CIA Director Richard Helms' (in 1973) ordering all MK-Ultra be destroyed, was released.   Why would you order all documents of something that never existed to be destroyed?   Why does the CIA still feel the need to maintain the lie?   


« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2017, 11:45:35 am »

Well we can't just take them for true without evidence. 99.9% of theories are false and if we gave them all credence we would be wearing tin foil hats and adamantium diapers to protect ourselves from barbed alien butt probes. We would be entering pizza gallerias and shooting the place up looking for Hillary child sex rings. We would be bombing abortion clinics over falsified information that caters to one's paranoia. Even if .1% of them are true in some sense, we can't take them for true until proven otherwise. I haven't read or verified any of your claims, but most or all them them required government declassification. What is the point going your whole life with fevered thoughts just to be proven right .1% of the time when this information is only ever revealed by expiration of classification dates or government revelations? This kind of thinking engenders the type of people who are readily given to any fake news just because it panders to their wayward biases. People like this are not healthy. If you were a stock investor and there was a company that had a .1% chance to make you a millionaire, but a 99.9% chance to wipe 20% of your account with each trade, what would you do? This is the toll conspiracy theorist suffer on the mind. A long battle of attrition living solely for moment far off into the yonder that you will snag a catch. The question is why when we could deal with it in it's on time when it can be reasonably done?
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2017, 06:15:17 am »

You're right, most have been proven true due to government declassification.    That kills the argument of "the government can't keep anything secret".

Alex Jones proved himself right about the Bilderbergs and Bohemian Grove.  I haven't paid attention to his other CTs, but we now know the ridicule he got for over a decade was totally unjust. 

It was never my intent for this thread, but it just got me thinking about something else.   We do we say that we can't accept CTs without proof, but we readily accept things like the UVA rape lie?  CTs need absolute proof to be declared true, but other things we accept countless lies as part of the "truth".
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