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« on: June 24, 2017, 08:53:43 am »

This is the new democrat way of things. If the sun isn't shining today, if the breeze isn't cool enough, whatever you can find to bitch and complain about, you're stuck in traffic, you're under the weather, Trump's president, someone dies, life goes on, you're depressed, just blame Trump.

It's all his fault. Everything is Donald Trump's fault.

Your boyfriend broke up with you, blame Trump.

Your best friend disagreed with you, blame Trump.

You woke up dehydrated, blame Trump.

You had a bad dream, blame Trump.

You feel insecure, blame Trump.

Go ahead... it'll make you feel better when you point that finger.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 09:11:55 am »

There are more than enough legitimate reasons to blame Trump.  We don't have to add trivialities.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2017, 09:49:21 am »

Yep, we know you will find some reason to blame him for something, even if he has nothing to do with it, like a terror attack in London, when he had nothing to do with it, you'll find some way to point the finger at him, instead of condemning the violence yourself. Do you have a Facebook post about it? A Twitter post about condemning the violence? Are you marching in the street? Do you really even care? Nope. You just want to make an excuse to blame Trump.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 11:06:41 am »

Yep, we know you will find some reason to blame him for something, even if he has nothing to do with it, like a terror attack in London, when he had nothing to do with it, you'll find some way to point the finger at him, instead of condemning the violence yourself. Do you have a Facebook post about it? A Twitter post about condemning the violence? Are you marching in the street? Do you really even care? Nope. You just want to make an excuse to blame Trump.
You conflate criticism of Trump with blaming him for the events reacts to.  He lies--all the time--Like his inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama's ;that 3 million illegals voted in the election; that Obama wiretapped him, that climate change is a hoax generated by the Chinese, that he had tapes of conversations with Comey, and on and on and on. Critics of Trump have enough material without blaming him for any of our woes.  But just give him time, soon enough there will be some catastrophe we can directly blame him for.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2017, 11:14:32 am »

Are you serious??? "Soon enough, we'll be able to blame him for SOMETHING!" LOL That is the whole point I've been making. You are constantly looking for something to blame him for. Your first sentence doesn't even make sense: "You conflate criticism of Trump with blaming him for the events reacts to." That sentence doesn't even make sense. Then you say he lies all the time, that his crowd was bigger - and nobody counted, that 3 million illegals voted, when there was a report today that as many as 1.5 million illegals used fake SSN#s, that climate change is a hoax generated by the Chinese, which he never said, that he had recorded conversations with Comey, which he never claimed. My God, you are delusional beyond belief!

You guys wonder why you keep losing elections! I'll tell you the answer to the great mystery! Because you're NOT SMART. Now go back and answer the question about why you are attacking me for not "editing" the very post that Sutieday made where he was replying to himself. You can't. Because you are BUSTED! Keep looking for something. Russia. China next probably. You'll come up with something to try and make us look the other way. It's old already. Give it up. We are the winners and you are the losers. You are on the losing side. It's over, it's done. Get used to it!
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2017, 01:17:56 pm »

There are more than enough legitimate reasons to blame Trump.  We don't have to add trivialities.

Really??  Name a LEGITIMATE reason to blame Trump.   
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2017, 01:48:58 pm »

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that 3 million illegals voted in the election; 

If you look at the US with states that require no id to vote vs ones that do, and compare it to the electoral college results, you might notice something.   

Care to guess what that is?   

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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2017, 05:29:53 pm »

Are you serious??? "Soon enough, we'll be able to blame him for SOMETHING!" LOL That is the whole point I've been making. You are constantly looking for something to blame him for. Your first sentence doesn't even make sense: "You conflate criticism of Trump with blaming him for the events reacts to." That sentence doesn't even make sense. Then you say he lies all the time, that his crowd was bigger - and nobody counted, that 3 million illegals voted, when there was a report today that as many as 1.5 million illegals used fake SSN#s, that climate change is a hoax generated by the Chinese, which he never said, that he had recorded conversations with Comey, which he never claimed. My God, you are delusional beyond belief!

You guys wonder why you keep losing elections! I'll tell you the answer to the great mystery! Because you're NOT SMART. Now go back and answer the question about why you are attacking me for not "editing" the very post that Sutieday made where he was replying to himself. You can't. Because you are BUSTED! Keep looking for something. Russia. China next probably. You'll come up with something to try and make us look the other way. It's old already. Give it up. We are the winners and you are the losers. You are on the losing side. It's over, it's done. Get used to it!
Don't twist my words.  I meant that eventually Trump will be the actual cause of a bad event, rather than just him commenting on them.  And if you look back at Sutieday's ONE time where he replied to his own post, he was actually replying to separate posts made by others in the thread--not just adding to his previous thought as you do ALL THE . TIME.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2017, 05:45:08 pm »

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that 3 million illegals voted in the election; 

If you look at the US with states that require no id to vote vs ones that do, and compare it to the electoral college results, you might notice something.   

Care to guess what that is?   


I'll take you up on that:
California -- Clinton
Illinois --- Clinton
Iowa -- Trump
Maine -- Trump and Clinton
Maryland -- Clinton
Massachusetts -- Clinton
Minnesota -- Clinton
Nebraska -- Trump
Nevada . -- Trump
New Jersey . Clinton
New Mexico -- Clinton
New York -- Clinton
North Carolina -- Trump
Oregon -- Clinton
Pennsylvania -- Trump
Vermont -- Clinton
West Virginia -- Trump
Wyoming -- Trump
Washington DC -- Clinton

That's 11 for Clinton, 7 for Trump and one tie.  If you are talking about Electoral College Votes, the result will be skewed because NY and California have so many.

But, your premise is flawed.  Voter ID laws are generally part of a conservative agenda, so where they succeed, one would expect Trump would win.  It does not mean that lack of ID permits illegal votes for Clinton.

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2017, 07:12:13 pm »

It's funny though, that Hillary dominated in states that required no id to vote.



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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2017, 07:43:54 pm »

It's funny though, that Hillary dominated in states that required no id to vote

Of all the states without voter ID, (excluding Maine), Clinton won in 62% and Trump won in 38%.  Considering Clinton won 48% of the popular vote, while Trump won 46%, I don't think the difference is enough to support your argument.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2017, 08:05:13 pm »

It's funny though, that Hillary dominated in states that required no id to vote.





That's probably because---since many courts have determined voter ID laws often disenfranchises voters of color and poor voters of all races---those who wouldn't be able to obtain IDs easily were able to vote and they voted for Clinton. That doesn't necessarily mean they were all undocumented immigrants as there are no reputable reports of undocumented immigrants voting in huge numbers, especially not 3 million of them in one election. Some forms of ID require payment, birth certificate and various other things that can be extremely hard to obtain depending on your socioeconomic status. If you live in a rural area of a state and your state requires you to have photo ID to vote but to get that ID you need to provide a birth certificate, then you have to go through extra hurdles to vote and not everyone has the time, money or means of transportation to overcome those hurdles.

If you go to some of these rural areas and even some cities, you will see how difficult voter ID laws make it to vote. I voted easily here in South Carolina because I have a driver's license. Do you want to guess how many family members I have who live nowhere near our state's capital, have never even driven a car, do not have money to obtain a photo ID, do not have transportation to any of the offices to obtain a birth certificate and have always used something like an electricity bill to prove residency to be able to vote prior to voter ID laws? I can tell you I've spent a lot of money in gas taking my family members who live in Edgefield County and Saluda County and Barnwell County to various places to obtain the proper things to be able to vote, and more money helping them obtain the actual photo IDs since using only a voter card no longer gets you access to a ballot. Ask yourself this: why in America does it now cost money to vote depending on who you are and where you live, and why is it disproportionately keeping certain people from casting a ballot?
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2017, 11:42:27 pm »

It's funny though, that Hillary dominated in states that required no id to vote.

Very interesting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krD4hdGvGHM
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2017, 01:29:32 am »

Trump dominated in the farm belt and dairy country.  Does that mean cows and sheep voted illegally?
The entire premise is flawed without underlying facts.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2017, 03:33:56 am »

Trump dominated in the farm belt and dairy country.  Does that mean cows and sheep voted illegally?
The entire premise is flawed without underlying facts.

Trump won over 98% of the counties across the USA.   Hillary got her wins almost exclusively in the major city centers, which are also the hot spots for crime.  

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2017, 03:48:21 am »

Trump dominated in the farm belt and dairy country.  Does that mean cows and sheep voted illegally?
The entire premise is flawed without underlying facts.

Hillary got her wins almost exclusively in the major city centers, which are also the hot spots for crime.  

Those two topics are mutually exclusive.
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2017, 05:25:00 am »

Trump dominated in the farm belt and dairy country.  Does that mean cows and sheep voted illegally?
The entire premise is flawed without underlying facts.

Trump won over 98% of the counties across the USA.   Hillary got her wins almost exclusively in the major city centers, which are also the hot spots for crime.  

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/
Frederick you are a hoot and you just shot yourself in the foot.  The Snopes article you cite rates the claim as FALSE.
"the claim that Trump won all but 57 of America’s 3,141 counties appeared to  be completely untrue."

Clinton actually won 487 counties out of 3, 141.  But looking at county data is just a way to dilute the influence of New York and California.  Los Angeles county has population of 10.1 million, which is more than 43 states.
I am in no way diminishing the strength of Trump's victory, but let's not get carried away...
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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2017, 04:57:32 pm »

Trump dominated in the farm belt and dairy country.  Does that mean cows and sheep voted illegally?
The entire premise is flawed without underlying facts.

Trump won over 98% of the counties across the USA.   Hillary got her wins almost exclusively in the major city centers, which are also the hot spots for crime.  

http://www.snopes.com/trump-won-3084-of-3141-counties-clinton-won-57/
Frederick you are a hoot and you just shot yourself in the foot.  The Snopes article you cite rates the claim as FALSE.
"the claim that Trump won all but 57 of America’s 3,141 counties appeared to  be completely untrue."

Clinton actually won 487 counties out of 3, 141.  But looking at county data is just a way to dilute the influence of New York and California.  Los Angeles county has population of 10.1 million, which is more than 43 states.
I am in no way diminishing the strength of Trump's victory, but let's not get carried away...


You are an idiot.   You just confirmed the point I was making.   Whether 57 of 3141 (over 98% Trump)  or 487 of 3141 (85% Trump) - Trump still won an overwhelming number of the counties.   

As for looking at the popular vote - which means nothing - It is true that Los Angeles county has a population of 10.1 million.. however, a vast number of them are not citizens.  For instance, in California, non citizens are eligible for driver's licenses.  And people who have driver's licenses are AUTOMATICALLY registered to vote in California!  That is crazy.   So.. you have the state of California with 39 million people.. with an estimated 4 million of them voting who had no business voting. 
http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-senate-voter-registration-drivers-licenses-20150910-story.html

But.. even then.. you can just forget all of the above, because Trump WON! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7c6192qYmg
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2017, 08:54:47 pm »

Frederick, you are missing the point.  Looking at county data is completely irrelevant.  First, the electoral college votes by state, not county.  Second, how can you put on equal footing a county with 10,000 people with one that has 10,000,000?  The county data is just a way to fill in the map of the US red.  Regardless of the popular vote, if a total of 100,000 votes had gone the other way in swing states, Hilary would be President.
Again, I am not diminishing Trump's victory, which was epic, but it was not the massive mandate that you would like it to be.
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2017, 10:19:56 pm »

Frederick, you are missing the point.  Looking at county data is completely irrelevant.  First, the electoral college votes by state, not county.  Second, how can you put on equal footing a county with 10,000 people with one that has 10,000,000?  The county data is just a way to fill in the map of the US red.  Regardless of the popular vote, if a total of 100,000 votes had gone the other way in swing states, Hilary would be President.
Again, I am not diminishing Trump's victory, which was epic, but it was not the massive mandate that you would like it to be.

What a ripe, steaming pile of Pelosi. 
The left has been harping on the "popular" vote since election day.. when it means nothing.  The electoral count (which Trump won by a huge margin) is all that counts.  The left denied it.
Then, when I point out that across the country, other than a few inner cities that are filled with illegal immigrants and crime... Trump won the at least 85% of the counties..  THEN you say THAT data is irrelevant. 
I get it.. any data that you don't like is irrelevant. 

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