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« on: June 27, 2017, 03:01:55 am »

....for not responding to an attack that he doesn't even believe happened"--Rep Eric Swalwell

http://www.msnbc.com/for-the-record-with-greta/watch/swalwell-trump-trying-to-have-it-both-ways-on-russia-976577603943

This just proves how stupid Trump supporters really are.  They have claimed for months that Russians didn't interfere with the election but now they support Trump when he attacks Obama for not doing anything about an event that didn't even happen.

Seriously though......can someone tell me what Obama should have done?  Name one thing he could have done that would have satisfied Trump and people on the right.  Obama would have been called out for interfering in the election if he took any action at all.  The best thing he could have done is stay out of it.  This was a no win situation for Obama.
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2017, 04:42:23 am »

Trump is just looking for a way to muddy the waters, especially with his base, which at this point are the only ones who believe anything he says.  He accuses Obama of collusion and obstruction with Russia, so when the hammer falls he can say, "See Obama did it too!."
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2017, 05:37:49 am »

Trump is just looking for a way to muddy the waters, especially with his base, which at this point are the only ones who believe anything he says.  He accuses Obama of collusion and obstruction with Russia, so when the hammer falls he can say, "See Obama did it too!."

There you go again.. what's this "TOO" about?

Trump didn't collude with Russia. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2017, 06:27:35 am »

It is true that as of early May, the FBI was not investigating Trump himself for collusion with Russia.  That does not exclude his campaign or advisers, and does not exclude any evidence that may be forthcoming as the investigation proceeds.
If he is so unconcerned about the collusion allegations, why is he going after Obama using that word?  If anything, Obama was too cautious in exposing Russian meddling in our election, but collusion?  C'mon!
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2017, 07:43:12 am »

You guys are just not getting it. Trump is saying that if Obama and the democrats claim is hypothetically True, why didn't they do anything about it when they knew about it? And the reason is because the whole thing is fake news, they made it up. He is forcing them to retract their claims, because it would mean that they were colluding if they did know. This is a chess game kids. You can twist it around all you want, but the idea that "Trump supporters" are stupid and don't understand what's going on is ridiculous. You guys are the ones who are losing, and you are still making up excuses and don't understand why you lost.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2017, 07:54:55 am »

The public does not know the whole story, whatever it is. Latest reporting, which is based on anonymous sources claims that the Obama White House knew about Russia hacking the DNC before the election, but did not become aware of any possible collusion with the Trump campaign until December of 2016, a full month after the election.
We are not trying to litigate the election.  Trump won fair and square.  This is about preventing interference in future elections.
I sincerely hope that Trump and his campaign are exonerated.  The thought that any American citizen would collaborate with foreign nation to affect our elections is so despicable  that it truly threatens our democratic process.  For that reason, it needs to be investigated thoroughly, not to undermine President Trump's legitimacy.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2017, 12:57:10 am »

Trump is just looking for a way to muddy the waters, especially with his base, which at this point are the only ones who believe anything he says.  He accuses Obama of collusion and obstruction with Russia, so when the hammer falls he can say, "See Obama did it too!."

There you go again.. what's this "TOO" about?

Trump didn't collude with Russia. 

And yet Trump is whining that Obama didn't do anything to stop him from colluding with Russia.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2017, 01:24:28 am »

Trump is just looking for a way to muddy the waters, especially with his base, which at this point are the only ones who believe anything he says.  He accuses Obama of collusion and obstruction with Russia, so when the hammer falls he can say, "See Obama did it too!."

There you go again.. what's this "TOO" about?

Trump didn't collude with Russia. 


And yet Trump is whining that Obama didn't do anything to stop him from colluding with Russia.

There you go again.. misstating things. 

Trump was pointing out that if Obama was aware of Russian collusion BEFORE the election, why didn't he do anything about it? 
Also, as I have pointed out.. After Trump was elected, Obama took the extremely unusual move of putting sanctions on Russia.  In those last 2 months, when a new president has been elected, the sitting president is not supposed to be stirring the pot.. and furthermore.. after the election.. during those 2 months.. the sitting president is supposed to consult with the president elect (Trump) about everything going on.. and he did NOT. 

As time goes on, Obama will replace Jimmy Carter as the worst president of all time.  Jimmy Carter is a brilliant man.. but was a horrible leader.  Basically, Jimmy Carter was acting as a Secretary of State during his 4 years instead of as a president.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2017, 03:07:05 am »

Trump is just looking for a way to muddy the waters, especially with his base, which at this point are the only ones who believe anything he says.  He accuses Obama of collusion and obstruction with Russia, so when the hammer falls he can say, "See Obama did it too!."

There you go again.. what's this "TOO" about?

Trump didn't collude with Russia. 


And yet Trump is whining that Obama didn't do anything to stop him from colluding with Russia.

There you go again.. misstating things. 

Trump was pointing out that if Obama was aware of Russian collusion BEFORE the election, why didn't he do anything about it? 
Also, as I have pointed out.. After Trump was elected, Obama took the extremely unusual move of putting sanctions on Russia.  In those last 2 months, when a new president has been elected, the sitting president is not supposed to be stirring the pot.. and furthermore.. after the election.. during those 2 months.. the sitting president is supposed to consult with the president elect (Trump) about everything going on.. and he did NOT. 

As time goes on, Obama will replace Jimmy Carter as the worst president of all time.  Jimmy Carter is a brilliant man.. but was a horrible leader.  Basically, Jimmy Carter was acting as a Secretary of State during his 4 years instead of as a president.


What could he have done about it? 
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2017, 04:18:59 am »

I think Obama acted in the last month of his term because e knew Trump wouldn't, and wanted to send a message to Russia for the good of the country.  It appears that Michael Flynn's efforts to reassure the Russians about these sanctions and his subsequent lies about it to the VP and FBI are what got him into trouble.  And what's with Jared wanting to use the Russian embassy to communicate with the Kremlin?  And Trump's refusal to criticize Putin when he throws all of our other allies under the bus?  There's a lot of fishiness in this administration when it comes to all things Russia.
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2017, 04:37:15 am »

when the president is trolling people and liberals fall for it as usual...
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2017, 04:44:20 am »

He is no longer President Obama, he is FORMER President Obama, traitor and disgrace to the country. He lied and cheated and murdered and screwed over our economy and he just sucks. So if Trump is attacking Obama, I'm totally grateful.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2017, 06:49:10 am »

I think Obama acted in the last month of his term because e knew Trump wouldn't, and wanted to send a message to Russia for the good of the country.  It appears that Michael Flynn's efforts to reassure the Russians about these sanctions and his subsequent lies about it to the VP and FBI are what got him into trouble.  And what's with Jared wanting to use the Russian embassy to communicate with the Kremlin?  And Trump's refusal to criticize Putin when he throws all of our other allies under the bus?  There's a lot of fishiness in this administration when it comes to all things Russia.

You really aren't very good at debating. 
This is too easy. 
Everything you said above is quite flimsy.. and ignores the fact that Obama did noting BEFORE the election when it would have made a difference.  You know why he didn't?    Well.. I'm not going to waste the reason in a reply to you.. I will reveal the reason in a NEW TOPIC.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2017, 09:14:35 am »

The left;  Obama knew about and allowed Russia to mess with US elections, but so what, let's blame Trump.
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2017, 09:38:40 am »

The left;  Obama knew about and allowed Russia to mess with US elections, but so what, let's blame Trump.
How did Obama "allow" the Russians to meddle? The hacking of John Podesta's emails and the DNC had already occurred before anyone knew it was Russia and Obama's administration announced it was Russia on October 6.  Meanwhile, Trump was on the campaign trail, quoting from every leaked email and proclaiming giddily "I love WikiLeaks!"  Now who was facilitating the Russians meddling with our elections?
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2017, 09:58:28 am »

Nobody from the DNC cooperated with the FBI''s investigation into the hacking.  In fact, they refused to cooperate.   You'd know that if you watched the hearings. 

Trump had a less than 3% chance to win, so Democrats didn't care.

"News" and social media outlets conspired to bury news that made Hillary and liberals look bad, while promoting stories, true or not, that made Trump look bad. 


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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2017, 10:16:36 am »

Nobody from the DNC cooperated with the FBI''s investigation into the hacking.  In fact, they refused to cooperate.   You'd know that if you watched the hearings. 

Trump had a less than 3% chance to win, so Democrats didn't care.

"News" and social media outlets conspired to bury news that made Hillary and liberals look bad, while promoting stories, true or not, that made Trump look bad

You are not telling me anything new.  I have watched the hearings.  The FBI was calling the computer help desk at the DNC and never contacted any of the leadership.  But I'm sure the DNC could have done better.  I'l; agree that no one thought Trump could win and the democrats got complacent, but I don't think they buried any anti-Hilary stories.  The email private server was all over the news, and the chants of "lock her up!" got as much coverage as anything else.  And you want to talk about social media? What about the stories that she had Parkinson's or was dying or Pizzagate?  Her associates were mysteriously dying, she was taking millions from foreign powers, that the Clinton foundation only gave 10% to charity?  You have a selective memory.
Trump won, because among other things, he owned grabbing women by the pussy and completely ignored calls to release his tax returns.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2017, 11:50:40 am »

Just because leftist outlets buried the stuff, doesn't mean everyone did. 
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2017, 02:38:03 pm »

Just because leftist outlets buried the stuff, doesn't mean everyone did. 
What leftist outlets buried what stories? One example will suffice.
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2017, 07:22:23 pm »

Facebook admitted they buried stuff.    They created a special algorithm to do it.
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