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« on: July 01, 2017, 06:27:17 am »

President Donald Trump was whisked a few blocks from the White House to the Trump hotel on Wednesday night for his first re-election fundraiser, where he raised an estimated $10 million behind closed doors.

Some 40 months ahead of the 2020 election, the president held court for about two hours at a $35,000-per-plate donor event at the Trump International Hotel. About 300 people were expected to attend the event, which was expected to raise about $10 million, said Lindsay Jancek, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/29/trump-takes-10-million-at-first-re-election-fundraiser.html
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 07:40:36 am »

Whether the hotel was paid for the event or not, This is just ethically wrong.  His business either benefited from his own campaign, or his business made an in-kind contribution to his campaign.  Plus I also think he is using the Office of The President to generate free publicity for his properties by visiting them whenever he gets the chance. He is spending this weekend at his country club in New Jersey.
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 11:01:19 pm »

I'm Surprised, so Trump supporters here to defend his various conflicts of interest?

Trump using his businesses to generate funds....while President.
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2017, 02:43:10 am »

Whether the hotel was paid for the event or not, This is just ethically wrong.  His business either benefited from his own campaign, or his business made an in-kind contribution to his campaign.  Plus I also think he is using the Office of The President to generate free publicity for his properties by visiting them whenever he gets the chance. He is spending this weekend at his country club in New Jersey.

Oh boo hoo..
Is that the best you can come up with to attack Trump with?
Hmm.. come to think of it.. that IS the best thing you can come up with to attack Trump with!

Meanwhile.. is Hillary indicted yet?  When is she going to prison?  What about Obama?   Oh, I keep forgetting.. we aren't allowed to talk about Hillary or Obama..
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2017, 03:14:15 am »

Meanwhile.. is Hillary indicted yet?  When is she going to prison?

Questions you should be asking Trump, no?
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2017, 03:31:57 am »

Meanwhile.. is Hillary indicted yet?  When is she going to prison?

Questions you should be asking Trump, no?

Last week, Trump WAS wondering why Hillary isn't being investigated.  The media didn't pay much attention to that comment that Trump made. Should I go find it for you?  Or you think you can find it yourself?
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2017, 04:07:12 am »

Meanwhile.. is Hillary indicted yet?  When is she going to prison?

Questions you should be asking Trump, no?

Last week, Trump WAS wondering why Hillary isn't being investigated.  The media didn't pay much attention to that comment that Trump made. Should I go find it for you?  Or you think you can find it yourself?

The guy who said he was gonna appoint a "special prosecutor" (Trump) has yet to do so. Or have you forgotten?
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2017, 05:07:21 am »

Frederick, you know we have a lot more against Trump besides his obvious conflicts of interest.  Actually I think he sought the presidency for two reasons: First to prove he could win, and second to improve the value of his brand and enrich himself and his family.  He has made it painfully clear he has no interest in governing.  He spends 5 hours of his waking hours watching news coverage of himself!

What possible good could come out of prosecuting Hillary?  Like I have said on this board multiple times, she is not Our Lady of the Liberals.  Even if she were convicted and imprisoned, the moderate to left movement would not be affected.  And Obama?  Get Real.  Name one criminal act he ahould be prosecuted for, and you had better back it up with facts.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 07:01:27 am »

Uh, maybe he would have held the dinner at St. Jude's Hospital, where the Eric Trump foundation donated $30 Million dollars for kids to get free medical care... But I don't think people would want to dine at a hospital...? No sense.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 07:42:31 am »

Uh, maybe he would have held the dinner at St. Jude's Hospital, where the Eric Trump foundation donated $30 Million dollars for kids to get free medical care... But I don't think people would want to dine at a hospital...? No sense.
You mean the fundraisers that Eric held at a Trump country club and was charged by the Trump organization for its use?  Oh, don't worry, they replaced the money with a donation from the Trump Foundation.  The only problem is Donald Trump hasn't contributed a dime to his own foundation since 2008.  So he essentially used Eric's foundation to convert donations to the Trump Foundation into income for the Trump Corporation.  He's right.  He is very smart!

BTW, what's wrong with holding the fundraiser at a Hyatt or Hilton and avoiding even the appearance of a conflict?
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2017, 07:46:32 am »

Because then he would have to pay Hilton or Hyatt out of the funds raised. By using his own venue, the costs can be offset at the most affordable price. There's nothing wrong with that. Since 2008? Who cares? He did the work to raise the money, and you are trying to find some way to make this appear to be unethical or fraudulent when he literally raised millions of dollars for a hospital! It's nonsense!
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2017, 09:22:24 am »

I'm Surprised, so Trump supporters here to defend his various conflicts of interest?

Trump using his businesses to generate funds....while President.

If Trump used a hotel that had nothing to do with him, you'd still complain. 
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2017, 10:23:58 am »

I'm Surprised, so Trump supporters here to defend his various conflicts of interest?

Trump using his businesses to generate funds....while President.

If Trump used a hotel that had nothing to do with him, you'd still complain. 
You are absolutely wrong.  Even the "Fake Media" would stand up and notice and praise him for it.  I also hate when you assume how I would react to any given scenario.  You may know other members of this board well, but I have not been here long enough for you to come to pre-drawn conclusions.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2017, 10:29:58 am »

Because then he would have to pay Hilton or Hyatt out of the funds raised. By using his own venue, the costs can be offset at the most affordable price. There's nothing wrong with that. Since 2008? Who cares? He did the work to raise the money, and you are trying to find some way to make this appear to be unethical or fraudulent when he literally raised millions of dollars for a hospital! It's nonsense!
First, if he received a discount at his own hotel, that is an in-kind contribution which needs to be reported.  Second, you don't understand the issue with Eric Trump's fundraiser. Donald charged Eric to use the country club, the made up for those charges using Donald Trump Foundation money.  But Donald Trump has not contributed to his own foundation since 2008.  Therefore what Donald got from Eric's foundation he put in his own pocket, while the contribution back to Eric's foundation never came out of his pocket.  Get it?  If not, read all about it here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/06/06/how-donald-trump-shifted-kids-cancer-charity-money-into-his-business/#4e0ec086b4a3
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2017, 11:22:48 pm »

So 10 cents on the dollar might have went to the Trump Organization, and 90 cents on the dollar to the charity, although that is speculation, not fact, because you haven't actually seen the paperwork or the bills, so you have an allegation and an accusation, but really nothing solid or concrete.

Hillary on the other hand took 90% of the near one billion dollars raised for Haiti to "administrative costs." That's a fact that we DO know. In fact, during the VP debate, Mike Pence looked Tim Kaine square in the eye and said, the Hillary Foundation donates 10 cents on the dollar to charity, the other 90% goes to administrative costs. Tim Kaine changed the subject fast.

I guess you don't care about those kids in Haiti, since you probably voted for Hillary, right? I guess that makes you an extraordinary hypocrite, doesn't it?

Edit: At the end of the article, it notes that 2.9$ million was donated to St. Jude last year alone... But there were other charities not mentioned in this article. So you are calling him corrupt and unethical and fraudulent for a few hundred thousand dollars in costs? That's obscene, especially when you give Hildabeast a pass for taking $900 MILLION in costs. REAALLLYYY OBSCENE.
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2017, 11:29:53 pm »

So 10 cents on the dollar might have went to the Trump Organization, and 90 cents on the dollar to the charity, although that is speculation, not fact, because you haven't actually seen the paperwork or the bills, so you have an allegation and an accusation, but really nothing solid or concrete.

So, you made an assumption, could not back up the assumption, so you used it as a critique...

Hillary on the other hand took 90% of the near one billion dollars raised for Haiti to "administrative costs." That's a fact that we DO know. In fact, during the VP debate, Mike Pence looked Tim Kaine square in the eye and said, the Hillary Foundation donates 10 cents on the dollar to charity, the other 90% goes to administrative costs. Tim Kaine changed the subject fast.

I guess you don't care about those kids in Haiti, since you probably voted for Hillary, right? I guess that makes you an extraordinary hypocrite, doesn't it?

Everyone I disagree with voted for Hillary! Love your narrow-mindedness, really I do! Also, are you saying that Trump's use of his business to enrich himself/family, while in elected office, is okay because Hillary did so? You do see your own hypocrisy, right?
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2017, 11:38:15 pm »

What you said doesn't even make sense. Do you need to go back to elementary school so you can learn how to properly do arithmetic and reading? I don't think you comprehend what's being said. Maybe you need a graph. And yes, most likely you did vote for Hillary. It was Hillary or Trump, so yea... That's hardly narrow-minded.
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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2017, 11:41:05 pm »

What you said doesn't even make sense. Do you need to go back to elementary school so you can learn how to properly do arithmetic and reading? I don't think you comprehend what's being said. Maybe you need a graph. And yes, most likely you did vote for Hillary. It was Hillary or Trump, so yea... That's hardly narrow-minded.

Again with the ad hominem... also, you do know that 1) Voting is not compulsory, so many did not vote 2) There are other candidates, and you can write in on a ballot.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2017, 11:42:23 pm »

And you voted for Hillary, because you don't deny it and you can't admit it because it would make you look like a fool. I am very well aware that some people didn't vote. Thank you for that very informative piece of information.
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2017, 12:45:22 am »

So 10 cents on the dollar might have went to the Trump Organization, and 90 cents on the dollar to the charity, although that is speculation, not fact, because you haven't actually seen the paperwork or the bills, so you have an allegation and an accusation, but really nothing solid or concrete.

Hillary on the other hand took 90% of the near one billion dollars raised for Haiti to "administrative costs." That's a fact that we DO know. In fact, during the VP debate, Mike Pence looked Tim Kaine square in the eye and said, the Hillary Foundation donates 10 cents on the dollar to charity, the other 90% goes to administrative costs. Tim Kaine changed the subject fast.

I guess you don't care about those kids in Haiti, since you probably voted for Hillary, right? I guess that makes you an extraordinary hypocrite, doesn't it?

Edit: At the end of the article, it notes that 2.9$ million was donated to St. Jude last year alone... But there were other charities not mentioned in this article. So you are calling him corrupt and unethical and fraudulent for a few hundred thousand dollars in costs? That's obscene, especially when you give Hildabeast a pass for taking $900 MILLION in costs. REAALLLYYY OBSCENE.


Another example of you swallowing the pablum of the conservative media without checking your facts,  The Clinton foundation donated to other charities about 10% of its income, but the vast amount of the foundation is done directly by it, Making it a public charity.  In fact, its administrative cost were only 12%, and it Got an A rating from independent third party that evaluates all charities.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/25/reince-priebus/reince-priebus-false-claim-80-clinton-foundation-c/

And you still don't understand the issue with the Eric Trump foundation.  Yes,Eric did raise a lot of money for kids with cancer, but his father converted money that other people gave to the Donald Trump Foundation into income for the Trump Corporation.  That's the last time I will explain it.

You are eagerly propagate lies about Hillary without checking the facts, but when we point out something true about Trump that you don't like, you call it fake news.
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