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« on: July 12, 2017, 08:18:23 am »

...In view of today's startling email dump by Donald Trump Jr, the response on this board has been.... still waiting....
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 08:41:20 am »

I will respond to quell your thirst, but not because I am interested in a debate or further engaging in banter. It is just a statement and I will not say anything else about it, because it's just propaganda, and it's getting boring that you guys just believe this stuff without looking at both sides.

The lawyer is not only too young to be involved in the kind of deep state rhetoric involved, it appears she was setting up Don Jr, because she is linked to the people who created the fake news about piss-gate. She also points the finger at Russia, so how could she be working for them? It doesn't make sense. That's all I'm going to say about it, you can take it how you want, you can investigate what I say, or you can thumbs me down, I don't care. We aren't going to believe it and it's getting really old. Don Jr has put all the emails out for everyone to see and been transparent. Hillary on the other hand, smashed the servers up with a hammer. Big difference.
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2017, 08:50:28 am »

The lawyer was denied a visa to enter the US in Jan 2016, but later allowed to come in to meet with Trump Jr.   
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2017, 09:04:29 am »

(Later allowed to come in under Obama-for the record).
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2017, 09:08:00 am »

I will respond to quell your thirst, but not because I am interested in a debate or further engaging in banter. It is just a statement and I will not say anything else about it, because it's just propaganda, and it's getting boring that you guys just believe this stuff without looking at both sides.

The lawyer is not only too young to be involved in the kind of deep state rhetoric involved, it appears she was setting up Don Jr, because she is linked to the people who created the fake news about piss-gate. She also points the finger at Russia, so how could she be working for them? It doesn't make sense. That's all I'm going to say about it, you can take it how you want, you can investigate what I say, or you can thumbs me down, I don't care. We aren't going to believe it and it's getting really old. Don Jr has put all the emails out for everyone to see and been transparent. Hillary on the other hand, smashed the servers up with a hammer. Big difference.
I know you don't want to engage in banter. I am not going to downvote you and you can continue to cling to your trust of the Trump family without responding. But whether the lawyer was connected to the Kremlin or no, whether she had or shared any political information or not, is all besides the point.  As a Catholic boy taught by nuns, I've been told the intention to sin is as good as committing it.  The most damaging part of the email chain is not that he took a meeting, but when he was  told that there was information being offered by the Russian government to support his father's candidacy, he said "I love it." That willingness to collude tells volumes.
Even if this meeting was fruitless, are we to believe that as the summer progressed and information emerged that Russia was involved in the DNC hack, that Trump Jr would have stood idly by and let events play out without any intervention or participation?
Your dedication is admirable, but there is more to come.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2017, 09:11:53 am »

(Later allowed to come in under Obama-for the record).

Exactly, several months before the election.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2017, 09:13:26 am »

The lawyer was denied a visa to enter the US in Jan 2016, but later allowed to come in to meet with Trump Jr.   
You guys are a hoot.  Are you insinuating an Obama-sponsored, Democratic set-up to besmirch the Trump campaign?
If so, why would the Democrats not blow the whistle before the election? This is a non-sensical effort to distract.
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2017, 09:14:49 am »

Any candidate would gladly listen to damning evidence against their opponent, that's what you try to do all day long, regardless of where it comes from or who is giving it. There is nothing wrong with that... If someone from Malaysia or Japan or where ever said they had a picture of Hillary killing a baby, I'd look.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2017, 05:39:06 pm »

Any candidate would gladly listen to damning evidence against their opponent, that's what you try to do all day long, regardless of where it comes from or who is giving it. There is nothing wrong with that... If someone from Malaysia or Japan or where ever said they had a picture of Hillary killing a baby, I'd look.

It's against federal election law to accept contributions from a foreign government as a campaign.

The amount of mental gymnastics the guys on this forum have to do to defend this...

Since Trump Jr. released those emails, I have been checking Breitbart off and on to see how they could possibly spin this. There were two relevant articles. One was a huge collection of celebrity tweets bashing Trump and his son. The other was about Trump praising his son's "transparency". As of this morning, there aren't any articles about it on the front page. I guess that explains why there isn't any collective agreement on how to defend what Trump Jr. did. No one is being spoon fed talking points from major right wing news sources.

The capacity for critical thought and objectivity in this country is going down the shitter. Not that it was ever in a great place to begin with.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2017, 07:35:40 pm »

You know Breitbart is desperate when they put Rosie O'Donnell on their front page to stir up the base.   Trump Sr is still calling it a witch hunt, even after his son cultivated a relationship  "wit dos bitches". Who does he think he is kidding.? 
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2017, 12:33:40 am »

If Obama (or any Democrat) did this why would they wait until now to reveal it?  This would have been something to reveal last summer before the election.  This would have cost him the election.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2017, 12:39:20 am »

...In view of today's startling email dump by Donald Trump Jr, the response on this board has been.... still waiting....

What startling email dump?  The thing with Donald Trump's son is a nothing ..
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2017, 12:41:17 am »

If Obama (or any Democrat) did this why would they wait until now to reveal it?  This would have been something to reveal last summer before the election.  This would have cost him the election.

Obama and the democraps do things like that and FAR worse all the time, but the media choose to ignore it.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2017, 12:45:11 am »

If Obama (or any Democrat) did this why would they wait until now to reveal it?  This would have been something to reveal last summer before the election.  This would have cost him the election.

Obama and the democraps do things like that and FAR worse all the time, but the media choose to ignore it.

To be honest I don't have a huge issue with the meeting.  If someone has dirt on an opponent then the campaign should investigate it no matter where it comes from.  As long as they can prove that it's true who cares what the source of the information is.

My issue is that this campaign lied for months.  Trump and everyone on his team has lied to the American people.  What else is he lying about? 
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2017, 01:12:51 am »

Any candidate would gladly listen to damning evidence against their opponent, that's what you try to do all day long, regardless of where it comes from or who is giving it.

I agree with you but why send Don Jr?  She must have had some credibility for him to be the person to take the meeting.  There are plenty of other people who could have done the dirty work.  I don't believe the  adoption story for a second.  He is lying about that.  Something else went on in that meeting.
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2017, 02:01:09 am »

Any candidate would gladly listen to damning evidence against their opponent, that's what you try to do all day long, regardless of where it comes from or who is giving it.

I agree with you but why send Don Jr?  She must have had some credibility for him to be the person to take the meeting.  There are plenty of other people who could have done the dirty work.  I don't believe the  adoption story for a second.  He is lying about that.  Something else went on in that meeting.
Not jus Don Jr, but Jared and Manefort.  Clearly they were looking for major dirt and planning how to use it.  But sorry, the source does matter.  And before it is mentioned, the DNC seeking information on Manefort from Ukraine is a false equivalency.  They were looking for information on what Manefort did while working in the Ukraine, not for information that foreign actors had collected in the United States on United States citizens.  Don should have called the FBI.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 02:02:15 am »

If Obama (or any Democrat) did this why would they wait until now to reveal it?  This would have been something to reveal last summer before the election.  This would have cost him the election.

Obama and the democraps do things like that and FAR worse all the time, but the media choose to ignore it.
What was ignored?
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