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« on: July 20, 2017, 03:17:37 am »

No Republican voted for ObamaCare.
No Republican voted to repeal ObamaCare.

What the heck do they do all day?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2017, 03:59:54 am »

No Republican voted for ObamaCare.
No Republican voted to repeal ObamaCare.

What the heck do they do all day?


Clearly "Obamacare" is the most partisan legislation either.  One side is completely for it, the other side is completely against it.  That is troublesome no matter what side of the fence you are on.  

I can't think of any congressman that I'm impressed with, republican, democrat, or others.  Congress is a disaster, which also casts a shadow upon the parliamentary form of governments which are basically a congress running the entire show.  

As for this repeal thing... from what I can tell, instead of voting to repeal Obamacare, the republicans have decided to just let Obamacare crash.  A real life analogy to that would be whether to have a dying dog with only a short time left to be put to sleep with an injection (repealed) or just allowed to die by letting nature take it's course.  

The research on Obamacare is extremely confusing and the facts are so obfuscated that they are useless.   One thing that caught my eye is "Who qualifies for Obamacare?"    That is my biggest problem with Obamacare.. in that people are REQUIRED to purchase health care or be severely penalized on their taxes.  Most of those health plans being purchased don't cover squat and are useless.  

I think your earlier solution is the best.. make healthcare a STATE issue instead of FEDERAL.  
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2017, 03:07:37 am »



I think your earlier solution is the best.. make healthcare a STATE issue instead of FEDERAL. 

That's the same as doing nothing.  Only 14 states decided to run their own exchanges.  The other 36 chose to allow the federal government to do it.  These people pretend to hate big government but refuse to take any responsibility for their own people.

The problem with this strategy is that sick people will simply move to the states that have healthcare when  they get sick.  That is one reason why these state plans for single payer (CA,NV,VT) will never work.  If I lived in a state where I couldn't buy insurance but then got cancer I'm going to move to a state where I can get healthcare.  If I stay where I am I will die.  That's why we need a federal healthcare system where everyone is entitled to the same care.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2017, 07:58:20 am »



I think your earlier solution is the best.. make healthcare a STATE issue instead of FEDERAL. 

That's the same as doing nothing.  Only 14 states decided to run their own exchanges.  The other 36 chose to allow the federal government to do it.  These people pretend to hate big government but refuse to take any responsibility for their own people.

The problem with this strategy is that sick people will simply move to the states that have healthcare when  they get sick.  That is one reason why these state plans for single payer (CA,NV,VT) will never work.  If I lived in a state where I couldn't buy insurance but then got cancer I'm going to move to a state where I can get healthcare.  If I stay where I am I will die.  That's why we need a federal healthcare system where everyone is entitled to the same care.

That theory sounds good, but isn't realisitic.  If it were realistic, people would move out of states that have state income taxes and move to states that don't.  The best example of that is Massachusetts where people are taxed severely.

The idea that they need a healthcare system where everyone is entitled to the same care never existed.  The healthcare plans available to a person were always dictated by region and state.  There are so many healthcare plans that very few people are being given the same benefits.  In fact, they cheapest health care plans (which still cost a fortune) cover virtually nothing but the most basic things that don't cost a lot anyway.   

I have one example which shows what a disaster healthcare is.  Two years ago, by father had a stent put in his heart.  The entire procedure lasted 1 hour.  The bill for this 2 day stay in the hospital was $78,000.   The surgeon's fee for that one hour was $28,000.  The anesthetic for the procedure was a medication that is provided in 1 liter bags for IV use.  My father required one bag of the stuff - which costs $500 per bag (which is in itself outrageous.. that bag of fluid is almost entirely water).  But  let's just pretend that $500 is a valid cost for anesthesia for that one hour.  So, how much of that $78,000 bill was for anesthesia?  $500?  oh no.. The bill for anesthesia was $5000.  Someone had to take that bag and connect it to my father's arm.  That must be where the additional $4500 came in. 
Healthcare COSTS are the problem.   Who is doing anything about them? 
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2017, 08:00:52 am »

No Republican voted for ObamaCare.
No Republican voted to repeal ObamaCare.

What the heck do they do all day?

What do DEMOCRATS in Congress do all day? 

I would love to see reporters interview Congressmen and ask them "What did you do today?" 
Or "What is the last thing you accomplished?"   or  "What are you working on?"   
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2017, 12:14:40 pm »



 In fact, they cheapest health care plans (which still cost a fortune) cover virtually nothing but the most basic things that don't cost a lot anyway.   



Actually it's just the opposite.  Hospitals are doing much better and becoming profitable again because of the ACA.  They no longer have to provide as much uncompensated care because people have insurance and those insurers are picking up the tab.



http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/finance/hospitals-see-boosted-revenue-under-aca-but-cut-spending-charity-care-report
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