Not only is Obamacare a disaster.. so is Medicaid.
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2017, 02:03:58 am »

I have read some nonsense in this topic but rarely as silly as this.

I have lived in England slightly longer than 8 months and have never seen any massive scars, by definition I haven't seen missing limbs, but I have seen three people with amputated legs, and have never seen anyone with an eye patch.

I can make an appointment online to see a GP for tomorrow. And the question of money will never come up.

At first, I was going to say "what's the difference between missing limbs and amputations?"   What I MEANT was amputations.. however, there are a lot of people in England with the birth defect of missing limbs due to the medication "thalidomide" which is banned in the USA.  When pregnant women take "thalidomide" the babies sometimes have tiny flippers instead of arms and / or legs.  
By scars, I meant that in the USA, surgical procedures are usually done in a way that leaves only a tiny scar, or no scar at all, and if necessary plastic surgery is used to eliminate the scar.  In Europe.. when someone has surgery, you know it, and the scars are quite visible.

I wonder what city in England you lived in... ?  
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2017, 02:14:43 am »

Doctor shortages is a totally separate issue that needs to be addressed.

There's no shortage of doctors.  There is a shortage of doctors who do 40 hours of work a week. 

Once again you are making a great case as to why single payer is a better option.  Doctors don't work 20 hours per week because they are paid too much money.  Pay them less  under a single payer system and they will work more.

I think you are assuming what I think is good health care.   
I don't pretend to have the ultimate answer to healthcare, but what I CAN say is that Obamacare is a DISASTER.. and CAN'T continue. 
Also.. by work.. I meant actually working.. doing stuff.  I used to install computer systems for medical billing in doctor's offices.  There are some doctors who work non-stop all day long.. one patient after the next.  That is unusual.  There are a lot more doctors who spend the day trying to avoid patients as much as possible. 

But.. on your theme of what doctors are paid... my father's 2 day hospital stay was $50,000 for the 2 days laying in bed under observation by nurses..   and another $28,000 for the ONE HOUR that the doctor spent performing the actual procedure.   Running the IV during the procedure for anesthesia was $5000. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2017, 02:19:35 am »

I think it depends on the type of doctor.  A resident can work 18-20 hour shifts.  A chiropractor may work 10-4 and take every Friday off.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2017, 09:49:15 am »

Thalidomide has not been available in the UK since 1961
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2017, 11:09:11 am »

Thalidomide has not been available in the UK since 1961

The topic of thalidomide still resonates with me, as I was born only a year after it was taken off the market.  And during college in Florida I had a British classmate who had been a "thalidomide baby," with the ensuing birth defects.

The U.S. was largely spared the drug's devastating effects through the work of Dr. Frances Oldham Kelsey, who took on the pharmacy giants when she had too many unanswered questions about the brand-name version in a sedative called Kevadon, which reached her desk for review at the FDA in 1960.

Dr. Kelsey passed away only recently (2015) at the age of 101, and her obituary provides a window into that different era, and personal details about a lesser-known hero of modern medicine:

 https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/08/science/frances-oldham-kelsey-fda-doctor-who-exposed-danger-of-thalidomide-dies-at-101.html
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2017, 02:21:03 pm »

Now it all makes sense! Frederick is a time traveler!
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« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2017, 06:17:52 pm »

Either that or he just believes conservative ideology.
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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2017, 06:49:19 pm »

Either that or he just believes conservative ideology.


Trump is not a conservative.. in fact, conservatives spent over $100 million to prevent Trump from becoming president because they say he is not conservative enough. 
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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2017, 08:19:41 pm »

Either that or he just believes conservative ideology.


Trump is not a conservative.. in fact, conservatives spent over $100 million to prevent Trump from becoming president because they say he is not conservative enough. 

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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2017, 12:15:25 am »

I think it depends on the type of doctor.  A resident can work 18-20 hour shifts.  A chiropractor may work 10-4 and take every Friday off.

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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2017, 07:30:09 pm »

Either that or he just believes conservative ideology.


Trump is not a conservative.. in fact, conservatives spent over $100 million to prevent Trump from becoming president because they say he is not conservative enough. 

I don't know. He sure surrounds himself with racists and white nationalists, and they've been seen hanging around conservative camps for a few decades now. Seems pretty conservative to me.

Not to mention, the GOP health care program, which he flipped to heavily endorse, is really just a smoke screen for tax cuts for the wealthy. And that's like Reagan-philia 101 for contemporary conservatives. 

So he's got the cultural conservatism and the financial conservatism...if we can even call it conservatism. Sounds like just ridiculous stupid political maneuvering to me that ultimately undermines any notion of a multi-racial democracy.  But who am I to judge?
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2017, 08:03:59 pm »

Either that or he just believes conservative ideology.


Trump is not a conservative.. in fact, conservatives spent over $100 million to prevent Trump from becoming president because they say he is not conservative enough.  

I don't know. He sure surrounds himself with racists and white nationalists, and they've been seen hanging around conservative camps for a few decades now. Seems pretty conservative to me.

Not to mention, the GOP health care program, which he flipped to heavily endorse, is really just a smoke screen for tax cuts for the wealthy. And that's like Reagan-philia 101 for contemporary conservatives.  

So he's got the cultural conservatism and the financial conservatism...if we can even call it conservatism. Sounds like just ridiculous stupid political maneuvering to me that ultimately undermines any notion of a multi-racial democracy.  But who am I to judge?

You got that right.. who are you to judge?  You are just a delusional moonbat.  

As far as racism goes.. Obama hates white people.. and surprisingly, hates black people as well.  The only people Obama benefited were muslims and terrorists.    Lest we forget that the democratic party was the party of the KKK back in the days when they would lynch black people and burn crosses on their lawns.   Hillary Clinton proudly eulogized hard core, high ranking Klan leader and Senate troll Robert Byrd brain.. calling him her mentor and dear friend.   Another of Hillary's idols was this bitch whose lifelong goal was abortions on a massive scale, eugenics to reduce the population, and declared that black people were nothing more than "weeds".  And then there was the schmearming of Bernie Sanders as being a jew.. and stealing the nomination from him.  

You are filling the shoes of DrWuss very well.. suspiciously well.  
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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2017, 08:29:06 pm »

The KKK Democrats are the same people who call themselves Republicans today.  They changed parties during the war.  Stop spewing lies.
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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2017, 09:03:14 pm »

Either that or he just believes conservative ideology.


Trump is not a conservative.. in fact, conservatives spent over $100 million to prevent Trump from becoming president because they say he is not conservative enough.  

Hmmm...I smell a bit of Fox with a hint of Breitbart brewing.  Perhaps some Infowars sprinkled on top, too.  This guy--so funny!
I don't know. He sure surrounds himself with racists and white nationalists, and they've been seen hanging around conservative camps for a few decades now. Seems pretty conservative to me.

Not to mention, the GOP health care program, which he flipped to heavily endorse, is really just a smoke screen for tax cuts for the wealthy. And that's like Reagan-philia 101 for contemporary conservatives.  

So he's got the cultural conservatism and the financial conservatism...if we can even call it conservatism. Sounds like just ridiculous stupid political maneuvering to me that ultimately undermines any notion of a multi-racial democracy.  But who am I to judge?

You got that right.. who are you to judge?  You are just a delusional moonbat.  

As far as racism goes.. Obama hates white people.. and surprisingly, hates black people as well.  The only people Obama benefited were muslims and terrorists.    Lest we forget that the democratic party was the party of the KKK back in the days when they would lynch black people and burn crosses on their lawns.   Hillary Clinton proudly eulogized hard core, high ranking Klan leader and Senate troll Robert Byrd brain.. calling him her mentor and dear friend.   Another of Hillary's idols was this bitch whose lifelong goal was abortions on a massive scale, eugenics to reduce the population, and declared that black people were nothing more than "weeds".  And then there was the schmearming of Bernie Sanders as being a jew.. and stealing the nomination from him.  

You are filling the shoes of DrWuss very well.. suspiciously well.  
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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2017, 12:33:57 am »

The KKK Democrats are the same people who call themselves Republicans today.  They changed parties during the war.  Stop spewing lies.

I wasn't aware that Senator Robert Byrd or Hillary Clinton changed parties. 
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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2017, 02:39:36 am »

The KKK Democrats are the same people who call themselves Republicans today.  They changed parties during the war.  Stop spewing lies.

I wasn't aware that Senator Robert Byrd or Hillary Clinton changed parties. 

That's the tricky thing about relying on ideology, Frederick. It requires subjects have no knowledge of history. But, then again, subjects of ideology are typically ignorant of the sway ideology has over them, so no wonder you're surprised.
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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2017, 02:57:48 am »

The KKK Democrats are the same people who call themselves Republicans today.  They changed parties during the war.  Stop spewing lies.

I wasn't aware that Senator Robert Byrd or Hillary Clinton changed parties. 

That's the tricky thing about relying on ideology, Frederick. It requires subjects have no knowledge of history. But, then again, subjects of ideology are typically ignorant of the sway ideology has over them, so no wonder you're surprised.

I take back my insinuation that you are DrWas.  He actually had at least a dozen functional brain cells.
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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2017, 05:24:52 am »

The KKK Democrats are the same people who call themselves Republicans today.  They changed parties during the war.  Stop spewing lies.

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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2017, 09:55:04 am »

LBJ, a democrat, called black people "niggers" all the time. 

Byrd was a KKK grand dragon. 

The Planned Parenthood founder called black people "weeds".
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2017, 03:46:01 pm »

There was a time in America when it was socially acceptable to treat black people that way.
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