HPV vaccine: anger over decision not to extend NHS scheme to boys
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« on: July 26, 2017, 10:43:16 am »

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/jul/19/hpv-vaccine-anger-decision-not-extend-nhs-scheme-boys-cancer#comment-102371129


Umm, does anyone care to tell us why the feminists are totally silent on this?!   

More proof that feminism is man hating and special rights for women. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2017, 01:37:11 pm »

Maybe in the UK. The CDC in the US recommends this for boys and girls.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2017, 04:56:20 pm »

raphjd, I agree that it's indefensible for the NHS to not offer the HPV vaccine to boys and girls equally, and that the argument "vaccinating girls gives boys a 'herd protection.'" is simply not good enough.

However, I see no evidence to support your claim that feminists -- a term you seem to equate to women with strong opinions -- are behind this NHS policy recommendation.

From your own Guardian article:  "Critics called the decision 'indefensible'. The Faculty of Sexual and Reproductive Healthcare (FSRH), a membership body for healthcare professionals who work in sexual and reproductive health, said the decision should be reversed when the JCVI meets again in October.

Asha Kasliwal, the FSRH president, said the interim decision to deny boys the HPV vaccination was a huge missed opportunity for improving long-term sexual and reproductive health outcomes and tackling gender inequality."


Asha is a woman.  (Sorry, I don't know if she wears plaid shirts in her free time.)

A very quick Google search turns up an article as far back as 2012, authored by the director of research in the Department of Pathology, University of Cambridge, UK.  It was published in Nature, an international weekly journal of science.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v488/n7413_supp/full/488S10a.html is headlined:

Perspective: Vaccinate boys too

HPV-associated cancers in men are on the rise. By not vaccinating boys we are failing to gain maximum health benefit, argues Margaret Stanley.


Yes, per her photo, Marge is a apparently a pearl-wearing femi-nazi, so artfully concealed!

And just to see, I Googled "women's groups opposing hpv vaccination boys" and found squat.  Can you provide citations (no YouTube ranters with tin-foil hats, please) to support the assertion that even fringe women's groups are against HPV for boys?  I've already shown two prominent women, of many, who are anything but silent in supporting boys' vaccinations.

Do that, and I can truly say I learned something new.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2017, 05:56:31 pm »

One way to greatly reduce STDs is to never have sex with females.  They are incubators for diseases. 
Unless someone wants to have children, they should never have sex with a female.  In fact, they could resort to artificial insemination to avoid sex with women. 
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2017, 06:28:22 pm »

One way to greatly reduce STDs is to never have sex with females.  They are incubators for diseases. 
Unless someone wants to have children, they should never have sex with a female.  In fact, they could resort to artificial insemination to avoid sex with women. 

Oh, Frederick.  On other threads, you have documented your self-described issues with women family members in the earlier part of your life.  It doesn't make these new remarks any less inappropriate, offensive or inaccurate.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/2015/std-surveillance-report-press-release.html

P&S syphilis among men who have sex with men (MSM) has been increasing since at least 2000. In 2014, rates of P&S syphilis increased among MSM, who account for 83 percent of reported cases among men when the sex of the partner is known. Also concerning is that more than half of MSM (51 percent) diagnosed with syphilis in 2014 were also HIV-positive. Infection with syphilis can cause sores on the genitals, which make it easier to transmit and acquire HIV.

Syphilis is currently the only STD for which information on the sex of the sex partner is reported. However, a growing body of evidence indicates that MSM are experiencing similar increases in gonorrhea and chlamydia infections– underscoring the need to further understand what is contributing to the rise.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 01:33:20 am »

There are lots of reasons not to have sex with women but STD's are not one of them.  Gay men in particular are just full of STD's.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 08:00:16 am »

I did not say that feminists are behind this policy.   

I said that feminists are fucking liars when they claim that they are about gender equality.    They are always silent when males are at a disadvantage.   Reverse the genders and feminists would lose their minds.   


97% of British dentists and 94% of British doctors say that both should be vaccinated. 
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2017, 08:03:45 am »

There are lots of reasons not to have sex with women but STD's are not one of them.  Gay men in particular are just full of STD's.

I've never had an STD/STI.


I'd say that anyone (male or female) willing to take dick behind a dumpster at the back of a chippie is gonna have lots of diseases.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2017, 04:49:39 pm »

I did not say that feminists are behind this policy.   

I said that feminists are fucking liars when they claim that they are about gender equality.    They are always silent when males are at a disadvantage.   Reverse the genders and feminists would lose their minds.   

97% of British dentists and 94% of British doctors say that both should be vaccinated.
 

So... 94% of British doctors are pro-HPV vax, and I have read that the number of female doctors in the U.K. is approaching 50 percent.

If just half of these women doctors (I'm betting, more) consider themselves feminists, then we already have identified a substantial pool of feminists -- in the most critical work sector -- who believe that boys should get the HPV vaccine.  They are NOT silent; they have voiced an opinion on HPV treatment in that poll, and want to provide for children of both genders equally.

As well, how about British mothers who consider themselves feminists, and want that protection offered to all their children.  These feminists don't want men (boys, here) at a disadvantage for this health care.

Moving away from the specific, HPV vax issue, all the ground rules for proper debate are thrown aside with blanket, unsupported statements like "Feminists are f-cking liars." and "They are always silent when men are at a disadvantage."  If you want to debate, then offer an opinion, and back it up with evidence.  And where is the self-applied cop hat for the uncivil cursing?  Forum rules, not mine.

Honestly, are there any other inhibiting behaviors we can display to keep new voices away from this Politics and Debate Forum, now that the sum total of posting members is hovering in the high single digits?
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2017, 05:07:58 pm »


I've never had an STD/STI.

I'd say that anyone (male or female) willing to take dick behind a dumpster at the back of a chippie is gonna have lots of diseases.


On the first point, cheers and congratulations.

On the second point, I was unaware gay men have faced such a mighty hurdle, running wanton women out of their favorite illicit cruising spots for (often unprotected) anonymous sex, where STDs are common.

Get those lascivious ladies away from my dumpster, out from under my pier, and away from my preferred train station bathroom stalls!  I have no doubt these disruptions are being coordinated (silently, of course) by our sworn enemies, the feminists.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2017, 06:05:33 pm »

So, where are the feminist groups on this?!     The silence is deafening. 

We had the feminist riot/near riot over a discussion about male suicide and we had Chanty Binx and her lot pull the fire alarm to prevent a discussion on male specific health issues.     

Yeah yeah, I know, feminists are great and anyone who disagrees is evil.   Never question feminism/feminists is the left's dogma.
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