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« on: July 26, 2017, 04:14:52 pm »

When you protect little girls by not allowing grown men calling themselves "women" to use the same bathroom... that creates a problem with transgender men who look like women being forced to use the men's room. 

When you provide subsidized healthcare for people who need MILLION$ in healthcare services..  that puts a massive burden on healthy people earning minimum wage and have enough troubles paying for food and rent (and making it extremely difficult for them to ever get a house).

While I'm sure Trump means well, and is much more honest than 99% of the politicians.. I don't think he considers the consequences of his actions.  Just today.. he came out with this:
""After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow...Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming..victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Thank you.""

Here is one reason why that is a disastrous policy... anybody who wants to get out of the military, or if there was a draft - wanted to avoid being drafted - only has to pull a "Klinger" and get out.  I recall that when I was living on campus at my University.. it was quite common for ROTC cadets and people already in the military to declare that they were gay, just to get out of military service - whether or not they were gay.
I would point out that roughly 11% of people are gay, and 35% are bisexual.  That's a LOT.  Imagine if this was the Vietnam Era.. and all someone had to do to avoid being drafted was to say they were gay.    I know that I would say I was straight if that got me out of military service.   
That brings up one other related issue...   females in the military.   Isn't it just great that females can be in the military and get promoted and fly planes, etc.  ?   But... whenever there is a heavy battles going on.. suddenly a very large number of females get pregnant.. which relieves them of military service. 

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2017, 01:31:58 am »

I don't know if it will get you out of the military.  I suppose it may depend on how bad you want out.  I had a friend who was going to join the air force about 15 years ago.  He was 18 and was lost.  He changed his mind after he was well into the enlistment process and went to his recruiter and told him he was gay.  The recruiter didn't care.  He was still going to let him join. 

Transphobia is probably a little more prevalent that homophobia though.

This isn't a real policy anyway and Trump knows it.  He is embarrassed because he is failing on healthcare and he needed a distraction.  Usually he pounds on immigrants because they are easy targets and he is a cowardly man.  Today he chose to pick on an even smaller and weaker group.  This policy will never hold up in court.  He even waited until Rex Tillerson went on vacation so he doesn't have to face him. 
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2017, 04:16:13 pm »

I don't know if it will get you out of the military.  I suppose it may depend on how bad you want out.  I had a friend who was going to join the air force about 15 years ago.  He was 18 and was lost.  He changed his mind after he was well into the enlistment process and went to his recruiter and told him he was gay.  The recruiter didn't care.  He was still going to let him join. 

Transphobia is probably a little more prevalent that homophobia though.

This isn't a real policy anyway and Trump knows it.  He is embarrassed because he is failing on healthcare and he needed a distraction.  Usually he pounds on immigrants because they are easy targets and he is a cowardly man.  Today he chose to pick on an even smaller and weaker group.  This policy will never hold up in court.  He even waited until Rex Tillerson went on vacation so he doesn't have to face him. 

Trump's plan..

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