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« on: August 12, 2017, 01:16:43 pm »

Today Trump had a phone call with Chinese President Xi about having North Korea ending it's nuclear and missile programs,  and to stop making threats.   

Does anybody think there is any chance at all of Kim Jung Un ending his threats, missile program and nuclear program? 
The chances of that are ZERO. 
If China REALLY wanted to solve the problem, all they would have to do is stop propping up NK with cash and trade.  China is probably where NK gets their missile and nuclear technology anyway.  It would be interesting to see North Korea threaten to nuke China and see what kind of reaction that gets from China.
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 03:11:32 pm »

Oh you get your fake news from fox. That explains everything.  Crazy? Crazy? Crazy? Crazy? Crazy?


« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 07:45:56 pm »

It's better than getting your news from leftist sources. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2017, 02:28:45 am »

It is interesting how Fox skirts around the real issues in its usual propaganda style articles.

Yes, China and Russia are behind North Korea. Of course they voted in favour of the ineffectual sanctions at the UN to trap trump into thinking he has some kind of victory. (Interesting that the trump and the trumptards have temporarily forgotten about their opposition to anything UN.)

The real issue is Chinese and Russian aims to kick the US out of the Asia-Pacific. The most dramatic way that can happen is to goad trump into leading the USA into another act of nuclear mass murder in North-East Asia. That will almost instantly mean that Japan and South Korea will end their alliances with the USA. It will probably also lead to the end of NATO as European populations will no longer put up with a military association with a criminal state. The USA would be expelled from ASEAN and other international organisations. Trump, as a war criminal, will be unwelcome in any country outside the USA. He would soon be forced to resign, but the damage would be done.

Of course, his advisors, especially in the trump businesses, would be pointing out that to act pre-emptively against civilians populations in North Korea as he has repeatedly boasted and threatened, would destroy his business interests around the world, not to mention destroy any moral ascendency and influence the USA still claims to hold.

The only option remaining for trump is a humiliating backdown unless he is unhinged enough to play into China and Russia's hands and bring disaster and ignominy upon the USA.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2017, 04:31:21 am »


China wants control of the region, they won't get it.  Russia doesn't want China to have control of the region.
Maybe China will enslave India and Pakistan next.  They are easy targets.

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