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« on: September 29, 2017, 02:08:42 am »

I wonder if we will ever see Trumps tax returns.

Here is what Trump has to say about this very important issue:

"Why does Obama believe he shouldn't comply with record releases that his predecessors did of their own volition? Hiding something?"
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 02:24:57 am »

Nobody with a brain cares if Trump releases his returns. 
It is not required.
We do know that one year he paid over $35 million in taxes.  How much income tax have you paid, if any, in your entire life?

It is surprising that even though he didn't cave in to the pressure to release his returns, he STILL won the election by a massive landslide.  I forget how many.. but Trump won well over 90% of the counties.   The only places he lost were the corrupt city centers which are also the #1 hot spots for crime.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 02:42:19 am »

Maybe you don't care but Trump does.  He said so himself.  It's obvious he is hiding something.....that's what HE said.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 02:51:24 am »

Maybe you don't care but Trump does.  He said so himself.  It's obvious he is hiding something.....that's what HE said.

Can you show where he said that? I don't recall him saying that.

I knew way back at the beginning of the 2016 campaign that Trump would never show his tax returns. Why? In making a big deal about Obama's birth certificate candidate Trump, and I quote, said, "I got him [Obama] to show his birth certificate." 

That right there said that Trump was playing a power game with the media to get Obama to do something. Trump wasn't going to let anyone bully him into making him show his tax returns. Trump was being an alpha-male and, love him or hate him for it, that play worked, Trump was and is seen as a strong leader walking his own path by his base.

Russia is Trumps Birther controversy: He earned it, but ultimatly it's fake news.

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 04:01:01 am »

Maybe you don't care but Trump does.  He said so himself.  It's obvious he is hiding something.....that's what HE said.

Trump's tax returns have been audited every year for decades.  Obviously if there was something wrong, it would have been found.  It has not.  The audits are still going on.  He said he would gladly release all his returns when the audits are over, but only a fool would release their tax returns while they are being audited.  In fact, any lawyer or accountant working on Trump's finances would quit if their client released their tax returns while an audit was going on. 

Is that so hard for you to understand? 
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 04:06:05 am »

Maybe you don't care but Trump does.  He said so himself.  It's obvious he is hiding something.....that's what HE said.

Trump's tax returns have been audited every year for decades.  Obviously if there was something wrong, it would have been found.  It has not.  The audits are still going on.  He said he would gladly release all his returns when the audits are over, but only a fool would release their tax returns while they are being audited.  In fact, any lawyer or accountant working on Trump's finances would quit if their client released their tax returns while an audit was going on. 

Is that so hard for you to understand? 

He could have released the 2016 returns.  Those are not under audit.  He filed an extension last spring.  I'm not sure if they have been filed by now but they certainly were not under audit since they had not been filed.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 04:09:26 am »

Maybe you don't care but Trump does.  He said so himself.  It's obvious he is hiding something.....that's what HE said.

Can you show where he said that? I don't recall him saying that.

He said it right here.  Certainly if these words applied to the last President then they apply to the current President too.


"Why does Obama believe he shouldn't comply with record releases that his predecessors did of their own volition? Hiding something?"
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 04:14:57 am »

Maybe you don't care but Trump does.  He said so himself.  It's obvious he is hiding something.....that's what HE said.

Can you show where he said that? I don't recall him saying that.

I knew way back at the beginning of the 2016 campaign that Trump would never show his tax returns. Why? In making a big deal about Obama's birth certificate candidate Trump, and I quote, said, "I got him [Obama] to show his birth certificate." 

That right there said that Trump was playing a power game with the media to get Obama to do something. Trump wasn't going to let anyone bully him into making him show his tax returns. Trump was being an alpha-male and, love him or hate him for it, that play worked, Trump was and is seen as a strong leader walking his own path by his base.

Russia is Trumps Birther controversy: He earned it, but ultimatly it's fake news.



You won't get aadam to reveal his sources.   I can tell you his sources.  Most of them are his own imagination, some are anonymous, some are Rachel Madcow, some are Don Lemon, the rest are assorted moonbats.  

By the way.. how is it possible for someone to be elected president of the USA without providing a birth certificate?  Putting aside the debate over the authenticity or legitimacy of Obama's birth certificate, there is NO EXCUSE for him not producing that "birth certificate" until forced to by Donald Trump 1.5 years after being elected.  
FURTHERMORE.. the constitution would be as long as a set of encyclopedias or more if they specified ever detail.  Obviously when it was written, the founding fathers MEANT that to be president, one had to be born in the CONTIGUOUS USA,  and the assumption is that the person would be RAISED in the USA as well.   Not only was Osama not born in the contiguous USA, he was not raised in the USA at all.  He spent the first 13 years of his life being raised in muslim Indonesia.  Of course when Obama did move to the USA, he got mentored by know terrorists... whoopee.
If John McCain was not a complete idiot, he would have focused on this in 2008 and god help us - won the election.  (bite my tongue).  
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 04:16:37 am »

Maybe you don't care but Trump does.  He said so himself.  It's obvious he is hiding something.....that's what HE said.

Can you show where he said that? I don't recall him saying that.

I knew way back at the beginning of the 2016 campaign that Trump would never show his tax returns. Why? In making a big deal about Obama's birth certificate candidate Trump, and I quote, said, "I got him [Obama] to show his birth certificate." 

That right there said that Trump was playing a power game with the media to get Obama to do something. Trump wasn't going to let anyone bully him into making him show his tax returns. Trump was being an alpha-male and, love him or hate him for it, that play worked, Trump was and is seen as a strong leader walking his own path by his base.

Russia is Trumps Birther controversy: He earned it, but ultimatly it's fake news.



You won't get aadam to reveal his sources.   I can tell you his sources.  Most of them are his own imagination, some are anonymous, some are Rachel Madcow, some are Don Lemon, the rest are assorted moonbats. 

By the way.. how is it possible for someone to be elected president of the USA without providing a birth certificate?  Putting aside the debate over the authenticity or legitimacy of Obama's birth certificate, there is NO EXCUSE for him not producing that "birth certificate" until forced to by Donald Trump 1.5 years after being elected.   
FURTHERMORE.. the constitution would be as long as a set of encyclopedias or more if they specified ever detail.  Obviously when it was written, the founding fathers MEANT that to be president, one had to be born in the CONTIGUOUS USA,  and the assumption is that the person would be RAISED in the USA as well.   Not only was Osama not born in the contiguous USA, he was not raised in the USA at all.  He spent the first 13 years of his life being raised in muslim Indonesia.  Of course when Obama did move to the USA, he got mentored by know terrorists... whoopee.
If John McCain was not a complete idiot, he would have focused on this in 2008 and god help us - won the election.  (bite my tongue). 

My source is almost always the same.  My source is Donald Trump.  I just provided you with the quote where he implied that Obama was hiding something.  The same statement applies to Trump.  These are his words.  You can google the quote.  It's real.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 04:20:58 am »


He said it right here.  Certainly if these words applied to the last President then they apply to the current President too.


"Why does Obama believe he shouldn't comply with record releases that his predecessors did of their own volition? Hiding something?"

Ah, I see. Thank you.

You're projecting what Trump said about Obama as a statement that he's inditing himself. He said Obama must be dishonest; therefore, Trump implicated himself.

You're smarter than that.

That kind of connection is akin to believing that Trump actually grabbed women by the pussies. I refer back to what I said earlier, what a candidate says during a campaign (a word that describes battles in a war) has to be differentiated from what comes after the election. Like it or not, politicians say all kinds of absurdities and lies during a rally; and this was said in a Tweet in 2012 while Trump was testing the waters to see if he could/should run for the presidency.

What's your opinion about my explanation of why Trump won't release his tax returns?


BTW, here's the tweet aadam101 is referring to.
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/263348204068810752?lang=en
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2017, 12:09:30 am »

The reason he won't show his tax returns is simple and it has nothing to do with Russia.  He has been lying about how much money he has his entire life.  He went around for years telling people that his 58 story Trump Tower had 68 floors.  He over exaggerates everything to make up for the fact that he has such a tiny penis.

The reason he showed some of his 2005 returns is because The Apprentice started in 2004.  He likely did very well in 2005.  It was probably the most successful year of his entire career.

Trump is a failed business man time and time again.  He had to turn to reality TV to make a living.  Things got so bad at one point he had to resort to selling steaks at the mall.  He was quite successful at being a reality star.  He and Honey Boo Boo's mom have had a remarkably similar career.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2017, 01:26:16 am »

The reason he won't show his tax returns is simple and it has nothing to do with Russia.  He has been lying about how much money he has his entire life.  He went around for years telling people that his 58 story Trump Tower had 68 floors.  He over exaggerates everything to make up for the fact that he has such a tiny penis.

The reason he showed some of his 2005 returns is because The Apprentice started in 2004.  He likely did very well in 2005.  It was probably the most successful year of his entire career.

Trump is a failed business man time and time again.  He had to turn to reality TV to make a living.  Things got so bad at one point he had to resort to selling steaks at the mall.  He was quite successful at being a reality star.  He and Honey Boo Boo's mom have had a remarkably similar career.

You didn't answer my question as to what you thought of my previous explanation.   
 
What you're saying about Trump not having the money he claims to have had feels right; however, we shouldn't be arguing from our feelings but facts. Trump does lie/exaggerate (readers can choose the word they like) and he doesn't get called out by his base or GOP because what he says feels right, so don't go down that rabbit hole or you become part of the problem.

What we do know is that Trump's name is his brand and that he sells his brand. That's what Trump University was all about, him selling his name to a company that swindled money from citizens. Trump "peddling" steaks is the same thing. It fits in the context of his show. 

As to "failed businessman" that's an opinion that hardly matters now. He's the President. One thing not mentioned enough is that the US economy is booming. I, myself, am profiting from it (I'm invested in mutual funds, etc.), so to me he doesn't feel like a failed businessman at all. 

But as I said previously, he's not going to release his tax returns because ...
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 11:01:38 pm »

The reason he won't show his tax returns is simple and it has nothing to do with Russia.  He has been lying about how much money he has his entire life.  He went around for years telling people that his 58 story Trump Tower had 68 floors.  He over exaggerates everything to make up for the fact that he has such a tiny penis.

The reason he showed some of his 2005 returns is because The Apprentice started in 2004.  He likely did very well in 2005.  It was probably the most successful year of his entire career.

Trump is a failed business man time and time again.  He had to turn to reality TV to make a living.  Things got so bad at one point he had to resort to selling steaks at the mall.  He was quite successful at being a reality star.  He and Honey Boo Boo's mom have had a remarkably similar career.

You didn't answer my question as to what you thought of my previous explanation.   
 
What you're saying about Trump not having the money he claims to have had feels right; however, we shouldn't be arguing from our feelings but facts. Trump does lie/exaggerate (readers can choose the word they like) and he doesn't get called out by his base or GOP because what he says feels right, so don't go down that rabbit hole or you become part of the problem.

What we do know is that Trump's name is his brand and that he sells his brand. That's what Trump University was all about, him selling his name to a company that swindled money from citizens. Trump "peddling" steaks is the same thing. It fits in the context of his show. 

As to "failed businessman" that's an opinion that hardly matters now. He's the President. One thing not mentioned enough is that the US economy is booming. I, myself, am profiting from it (I'm invested in mutual funds, etc.), so to me he doesn't feel like a failed businessman at all. 

But as I said previously, he's not going to release his tax returns because ...



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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2017, 09:11:05 am »

Let's not forget that Trump's tax return(s) was "leaked" a while back.    I remember Rachel Maddox doing a show on it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2017, 09:33:05 am »

Let's not forget that Trump's tax return(s) was "leaked" a while back.    I remember Rachel Maddox doing a show on it.

Yeah.. Rachel Madcow had a special reminiscent of Geraldo Riviera's "Al Capone's Secret Vault"
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2017, 09:44:33 am »

It was stupid of her and the producers to waste an entire episode on it.     There was nothing "smoking gun" or even questionable in it. 
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2017, 03:23:04 am »

It was stupid of her and the producers to waste an entire episode on it.     There was nothing "smoking gun" or even questionable in it. 

Unfair treatment?

  Kick balls


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