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« on: October 04, 2017, 10:25:18 pm »

Homage, pastiche, rip-off; however you want to describe its relationship to STOS, The Orville is truer to 1960's Star Trek than Discovery.

It's also one of the few shows where a same-sex male couple's relationship is significant to the plot.

Does anyone else have thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 06:53:22 am »

I'm on the fence about watching this.  I've heard lots of negative stuff, but there are some people who say the criticism is overblown.

Personally, I want Adrianne Pilicki back on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., playing Mockingbird and hitting people with her battle staves™.

Should I be watching the Orville?  Is it good?  Seth MacFarlane tends to grate on me a bit.  The clip about "conquering the banana" made me cringe and scream: "Stop stretching it out!!!  It isn't funny!!"
 
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 02:48:16 pm »

I enjoy it and think it's well worth watching.

Adrienne Palicki is very good.  Seth McFarlane is very toned down so he's OK.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 11:05:02 pm »


I have not seen it.. yet at aleast!

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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 06:09:46 am »

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The Orville is truer to 1960's Star Trek than Discovery

I watched the first episode.  It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  It wasn't a laugh riot, but to be honest, I found myself not wanting it to be.  I actually (strangely) found myself wishing they'd played it a bit more straight, or at least made the confrontation with the Krill a bit more serious and tense.

Also, I found the visuals of "The Orville" to be a lot more....uh... comfortable(?) than "Discovery".  I know that "Discovery" is going for a darker tone, but I just can't stand the sets.  Even the sets on DS9 seemed more cozy and less oppressive than the ones on "Discovery".  I don't know what it is, but something about "Discovery" really pisses off my subconscious mind for some reason.

...but back to "The Orville".  I'll continue to watch it, but as soon as I feel that they've warped over top of the cosmic space shark, I'm out.

Final thoughts:

- My husband and I thought that Isaac was being voiced by Brent Spiner.  Was anyone else fooled?

- We loved Justin (the holographic ogre).  We'll be very disappointed if he doesn't come back.  I'm hoping he either gets a mobile emitter, or they feature him heavily in holodeck based episodes, a la Dixon Hill, Moriarty, Leonardo Da Vinci, the Ancient West, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 05:07:25 am »

I've seen just one episode of The Orville, the second one, "Command Performance."

The whole plot seemed boiled down to 60 minutes of a one-note script.  "Yes, young lady, you can lead the ship!  Yes, you can!  Believe!  Don't act like a child, and more like a captain!  Oh, you made mistakes that should have meant the ship's end, but somehow, it didn't!  You're a hero!  Hooray!"

I felt like it was scripted for tweens, there was precious little fresh science fiction, and none of it remotely cerebral.

For me, The Orville comes off as neither comedy, nor drama.  I love Seth as a voice actor, but he just feels wrong in this role, and since his "Million Wild West Ways" movie was also lacking, perhaps he should stick to animation and directing.

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2017, 05:29:09 am »

I recommend people here give episode #9 a check.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2017, 09:55:25 pm »

Hey it's good to know John, I might even start watching it!  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 02:28:14 pm »

I recommend people here give episode #9 a check.
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OK, JA, that spoiler is clearly enough to get me to watch that episode.  Maybe I judged the show too harshly on the basis of one episode.  At the very least, the "space and ship" scenes are very well rendered.

And, it was renewed!

http://tvline.com/2017/11/02/the-orville-renewed-season-2-fox-seth-macfarlane/
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2017, 01:00:33 am »

Seth is supposedly toning down is brand of humor because he's listening to fans. 

Orville is a great show actually, when the humor works. 

For the gay stuff, yeah, the alien does a lowe blow by getting Seth into bed.  I kinda hoped there was at least a line with Seth saying his ass hurts or something but them naked in bed could mean they had sex or were just about to.

Why hasn't the same sex Bortis (Worf stand in) planet with almost everyone being men been mentioned?  It's episode 3, I think.  Their whole race is practically guys and the men give birth to eggs.  It was actually a very important ep for gender politics and it was treated almost intelligently (barring the stupid trial part). 

I'm just waiting for more eye candy.  Seth is actually very cute.  The black guy Lamar is kinda hot but I was turned off by his role in the Like button episode.   Isaac is the best character so far but he's a robot.  Bortis is married too.  The Asian nurse is very attractive but he's rarely shown.  They need a sexy dude appearing on a regular basis.
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