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« on: October 07, 2017, 04:32:24 pm »

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"How can we come to any resolution on unwanted pregnancies, abortion, and women’s healthcare funding when our opponents also oppose sex ed in school and access to birth control (the most effective means for preventing abortions)?"
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2017, 05:40:44 pm »

I like to debate/argue. This is part of an argument from my wall. Thoughts, comments, differnet point of view?


"How can we come to any resolution on unwanted pregnancies, abortion, and women’s healthcare funding when our opponents also oppose sex ed in school and access to birth control (the most effective means for preventing abortions)?"

If I was a woman, I would be highly pissed that "women's healthcare funding" gets hijacked by the abortion people.  That was a huge scandal a few years ago when it was revealed that the money that was being raised to fight breast cancer was actually being used to fund planned parenthood. 

Sex education basically focuses on getting guys to wear condoms for various reasons.  The problem with that is,  people who use condoms don't use them consistently or properly.   There are a staggering number of pregnancies resulting from girls lying about using birth control or condoms either not being used - or being pricked with a pin to result in a pregnancy which will either force a relationship or a trip to an abortion clinic.    Schools are not competent to be teaching sex ed.   Here's an idea for sex ed.. supply porn to guys so that they have something to jack off with instead of bothering with females.  Supply dildos, ohmibods, and lovense products to both males and females to reduce the humping. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 12:21:11 am »

I like to debate/argue. This is part of an argument from my wall. Thoughts, comments, differnet point of view?


"How can we come to any resolution on unwanted pregnancies, abortion, and women’s healthcare funding when our opponents also oppose sex ed in school and access to birth control (the most effective means for preventing abortions)?"

If I was a woman, I would be highly pissed that "women's healthcare funding" gets hijacked by the abortion people.  That was a huge scandal a few years ago when it was revealed that the money that was being raised to fight breast cancer was actually being used to fund planned parenthood. 

Sex education basically focuses on getting guys to wear condoms for various reasons.  The problem with that is,  people who use condoms don't use them consistently or properly.   There are a staggering number of pregnancies resulting from girls lying about using birth control or condoms either not being used - or being pricked with a pin to result in a pregnancy which will either force a relationship or a trip to an abortion clinic.    Schools are not competent to be teaching sex ed.   Here's an idea for sex ed.. supply porn to guys so that they have something to jack off with instead of bothering with females.  Supply dildos, ohmibods, and lovense products to both males and females to reduce the humping. 

If your sex ed classes said just that, they were not on par with what I got in Los Angeles. We learned about all forms of birth control. We were also divided, by sex, into a special auditorium and shown a video of the male and female anatomy and a live birth.

Actually, if you look at the statistics you'll see a correlation between in the discussion of birth control, sex ed in school, The Pill and unwanted pregnancies to the crime rate. The number of unwanted pregnancies is way down from, say, the 50's and with fewer people growing up in orphanages, fewer young families living in poverty the crime rate took a nose dive.

Here in Japan birth control is largely seen as the man's responsibility. Condom sales are robust. The number of women on The Pill is in the low single digits and sex ed is taught in Jr. high school.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 02:04:01 am »

I like to debate/argue. This is part of an argument from my wall. Thoughts, comments, differnet point of view?


"How can we come to any resolution on unwanted pregnancies, abortion, and women’s healthcare funding when our opponents also oppose sex ed in school and access to birth control (the most effective means for preventing abortions)?"

If I was a woman, I would be highly pissed that "women's healthcare funding" gets hijacked by the abortion people.  That was a huge scandal a few years ago when it was revealed that the money that was being raised to fight breast cancer was actually being used to fund planned parenthood. 

Sex education basically focuses on getting guys to wear condoms for various reasons.  The problem with that is,  people who use condoms don't use them consistently or properly.   There are a staggering number of pregnancies resulting from girls lying about using birth control or condoms either not being used - or being pricked with a pin to result in a pregnancy which will either force a relationship or a trip to an abortion clinic.    Schools are not competent to be teaching sex ed.   Here's an idea for sex ed.. supply porn to guys so that they have something to jack off with instead of bothering with females.  Supply dildos, ohmibods, and lovense products to both males and females to reduce the humping. 

If your sex ed classes said just that, they were not on par with what I got in Los Angeles. We learned about all forms of birth control. We were also divided, by sex, into a special auditorium and shown a video of the male and female anatomy and a live birth.

Actually, if you look at the statistics you'll see a correlation between in the discussion of birth control, sex ed in school, The Pill and unwanted pregnancies to the crime rate. The number of unwanted pregnancies is way down from, say, the 50's and with fewer people growing up in orphanages, fewer young families living in poverty the crime rate took a nose dive.

Here in Japan birth control is largely seen as the man's responsibility. Condom sales are robust. The number of women on The Pill is in the low single digits and sex ed is taught in Jr. high school.

That is true.. here are the favored condoms in Japan... 
https://www.google.com/search?q=condom+hello+kitty&tbm=isch&source=iu&pf=m&ictx=1&fir=FIUvnPkuFKrXnM%253A%252CaM9f-73iSIvDXM%252C_&usg=__ykD1sgA0g4y2QpP2mW5G9XbQQ3E%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHufnb3N_WAhXn5YMKHUzACw0Q9QEILDAB#imgrc=FIUvnPkuFKrXnM:
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2017, 11:07:29 am »

If it hasn't already happened, the US should limit welfare to 2 or 3 kids, like they do in socialist countries. 

The UK just went to that and it'll save a fortune.     


Abstinence Only is bullshit and the teen birth rates show that.   Proper sex ed is needed for teens and the law needs to change so that parents can't opt their kids out of the course.

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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2017, 03:50:14 pm »

If it hasn't already happened, the US should limit welfare to 2 or 3 kids, like they do in socialist countries.  

The UK just went to that and it'll save a fortune.    


Abstinence Only is bullshit and the teen birth rates show that.   Proper sex ed is needed for teens and the law needs to change so that parents can't opt their kids out of the course.



That would result in being called a "racist" for penalizing muslims and mexicans that keep popping out as many children as possible.  
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 09:40:16 am »

There's that video of the black chick with her fatherless kids living in a hotel screeching "somebody needs to pay for all these kids".    Turned out that all 10+ kids each had a different father.

In the UK, we don't really see anyone other than whites with lots of kids because that would be racist.   Heather [what's her name] had 12 kids and made so much money on welfare that she could afford to buy her boyfriend pilot training (£200 - £250 an hour), stable a horse (about £350 a month), several pedigree dogs (£600 - £1,200 each), parrots (£1,000 each)  and countless other things.    Another family showed the parents saying they make to much money on welfare to bother getting jobs.  They said that getting jobs would severely cut their income, to normal levels.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2017, 10:16:31 am »

There's that video of the black chick with her fatherless kids living in a hotel screeching "somebody needs to pay for all these kids".    Turned out that all 10+ kids each had a different father.

In the UK, we don't really see anyone other than whites with lots of kids because that would be racist.   Heather [what's her name] had 12 kids and made so much money on welfare that she could afford to buy her boyfriend pilot training (£200 - £250 an hour), stable a horse (about £350 a month), several pedigree dogs (£600 - £1,200 each), parrots (£1,000 each)  and countless other things.    Another family showed the parents saying they make to much money on welfare to bother getting jobs.  They said that getting jobs would severely cut their income, to normal levels.

That is cheap for pedigree dogs.  Parrots in that price range would be large cockatoos, macaws, blue front amazons, and African Grays. 

I've seen several cases of divorced women living off the money that is supposed to be child support.   Never get divorced before the kids are 18!
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