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« on: October 27, 2017, 08:02:45 pm »

What is the point of having MORE gun control laws, when the existing gun control laws are not enforced and are useless?

Consider this, anybody convicted of a felony cannot own a gun.  33% of adult males of a certain race have been convicted of a felony.  Do you think that the crimes committed with guns are committed by people who own a gun legally? 

Maybe Saudi Arabia has the right idea... if someone commits a crime using a gun, cut off their hands. 

The problem is.. you can't enforce the laws without having civil rights lawsuits. 
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2017, 11:02:32 pm »

The problem is.. you can't enforce the laws without having civil rights lawsuits. 

Then abolish civil rights by Executive Order. The military has the power to enforce it. I guess, then the people would rise up against the military with the (advanced) weaponry they have and...

Adding regulations makes people feel like they're doing something. It creates the illusion that they're making progress.
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2017, 02:12:15 am »

The problem is.. you can't enforce the laws without having civil rights lawsuits.  

Then abolish civil rights by Executive Order. The military has the power to enforce it. I guess, then the people would rise up against the military with the (advanced) weaponry they have and...

Adding regulations makes people feel like they're doing something. It creates the illusion that they're making progress.

I don't think the USA military is authorized to operate domestically.  The closest there is to that is the National Guard.  

There are consequences to everything.   The same civil rights that are supposed to protect people also protect the hoodlums who are committing the crimes.

I'm not sure what you meant by "abolish civil rights".  Abolishing civil rights protections from convicted felons might work, however, since 35% of adult black males are convicted felons, people would complain that is racist and say "that's because they couldn't afford lawyers".  Almost NOBODY can afford lawyers these days.   Even millionaires such as OJ went bankrupt paying his lawyers. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2017, 03:01:54 am »

I'm not sure what you meant by "abolish civil rights".  Abolishing civil rights protections from convicted felons might work, however, since 35% of adult black males are convicted felons, people would complain that is racist and say "that's because they couldn't afford lawyers".  Almost NOBODY can afford lawyers these days.   Even millionaires such as OJ went bankrupt paying his lawyers. 

I'm not really trying to make a coherent point; rather, I was trying to echo what we often hear people say who are opposed to any form of gun legislation.
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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2017, 10:59:42 am »

I'm a "gun nut" and belong to a shooting club here in the UK.    In the US I owned guns.   I fully support the 2nd Amendment.


All that said, everyone knows (should know) that I'm pissed about the that the insanity loophole hasn't been fixed even after The Long Island Railroad shooting.    Colin Ferguson was legally declared a nutter in New York state, but he was able to go to Virgina to get his guns.   

During Clinton, we had some sensible gun control laws that got fucked up because they were too specific to certain guns, rather than the types of guns they were banning.    As an example, they banned the TEC-9 and for extremely good reasons.   The problem was, the maker stopped making the now banned TEC-9 and started making the TEC-10 which was perfectly legal, even though it was virtually identical.    Instead of banning ALL guns that could easily be converted into SMGs, they only banned a few specific guns and not the type of gun. 

No one has a legit reason to personally own an SMG (as well as many other types).    I'm in favor of well-regulated gun clubs owning them, or as in the UK, you can personally own a gun, but it must be kept at a gun club. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2017, 02:12:00 pm »

I'm a "gun nut" and belong to a shooting club here in the UK.    In the US I owned guns.   I fully support the 2nd Amendment.


All that said, everyone knows (should know) that I'm pissed about the that the insanity loophole hasn't been fixed even after The Long Island Railroad shooting.    Colin Ferguson was legally declared a nutter in New York state, but he was able to go to Virgina to get his guns.   

During Clinton, we had some sensible gun control laws that got fucked up because they were too specific to certain guns, rather than the types of guns they were banning.    As an example, they banned the TEC-9 and for extremely good reasons.   The problem was, the maker stopped making the now banned TEC-9 and started making the TEC-10 which was perfectly legal, even though it was virtually identical.    Instead of banning ALL guns that could easily be converted into SMGs, they only banned a few specific guns and not the type of gun. 

No one has a legit reason to personally own an SMG (as well as many other types).    I'm in favor of well-regulated gun clubs owning them, or as in the UK, you can personally own a gun, but it must be kept at a gun club. 

Here's a few videos to wonder about...
Apparently, this 9 year old girl's parents felt it was necessary for their lil sweetie to have an uzi to play with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNIiQ68QyqA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAkdkLUEaKI
Oh those crazy kooky KIDS!
Halloween version...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uNoO9xmFHw&feature=youtu.be&t=39

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