Is Cory Feldman responsible to lead a charge against pedophilia in Hollywood?
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« on: October 30, 2017, 09:26:22 pm »

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=136127


Some will call it victim blaming others will say that his name is out there and he's already on record, so he should follow the current flow and release the names publicly.

What do you think?

I'm on the fence. On the one hand, pedophilia is the worst crime imaginable, worthy of the death penalty. At the same time, unless he has evidence it's only he said/he said and giving license to bring up old grievances. 
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2017, 10:35:53 pm »

Oh... Corey Feldman..!  As his star failed to reignite in his thirties as an actor, he's certainly letting his eccentricity flow in his bid to become a 46-year-old "breakout" pop music star:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MegEj0AeM-8

Who knew there was that much Botox in circulation?   Blinking   At least he's preaching an anti-hate message with his extremely theatrical performance and costumes.

Anyway, this P&D board tends to give late-reporting women very little credence and generally rake them over the coals.  How, then, will Corey fare?

He needs to make good on his "tease" to pony up some names and occasions, imho.
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2017, 02:35:21 am »

Corey Haim had also come forward with details about having been molested as a young actor in Hollywood.

Maybe if child molestation (not paedophilia) weren't an unspeakable crime we could discuss it.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2017, 03:35:48 am »


Maybe if child molestation (not paedophilia) weren't an unspeakable crime we could discuss it.

OK, your parenthetical sentence structure above is intriguing.

Are you suggesting that child molestation is, indeed, an unspeakable crime; but (pedophilia), defined by Merriam-Webster as:

sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object; specifically :a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child

...is something to be independently considered?  As applied to the attraction, not acted upon?  Or, to so-called consensual man-boy acts?

Perhaps I've misunderstood.  Any clarification is welcomed.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2017, 03:49:50 am »

Like . I can't with this.  I think he's pathetic to begin with.  Talentless. But nonetheless why after 50 years this is coming out ?? Gimme a break.  Someone hasn't acted in 47 or those 50 years obviously is seeking publicity.  He could have changed everything then if something happened.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2017, 08:45:03 am »

https://grabien.com/story.php?id=136127


Some will call it victim blaming others will say that his name is out there and he's already on record, so he should follow the current flow and release the names publicly.

What do you think?

I'm on the fence. On the one hand, pedophilia is the worst crime imaginable, worthy of the death penalty. At the same time, unless he has evidence it's only he said/he said and giving license to bring up old grievances. 

Corey Feldman is a bit of a hypocrite.. and rather sad and pathetic.   He's been trying to cash in on the fame of Michael Jackson and the death of Corey Haim.  Haim's mother has sued Feldman before for making up stories about her son which she claims are not true.  Feldman actually believes he is "channeling" Michael Jackson..   and he also lives with several of "Corey's Angels" which is a direct ripoff of Hugh Hefner and the Playboy Bunnies.    Feldman's #1 goal for decades has been to make a sequel to the movie "Goonies"  - pffttt... pathetic!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5028079/Corey-Haim-s-mother-calls-Corey-Feldman-scam-artist.html

http://movieweb.com/corey-feldman-angels-sex-cult-celebrity-wife-swap/
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2017, 04:29:16 pm »

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Perhaps I've misunderstood.  Any clarification is welcomed.

Some clarifications:

Paedophilia is a sexual attraction to children.  Outside of 1984, societies don't prosecute 'Thought Crimes'.  Like with Weinstein, he isn't being charged with being 'Heterosexual' AKA attracted to women but for sexually humiliating and assaulting women.

Rape and sexual assault tend to be about power.  I'm attracted to men but I don't drug or rape men.  It's more common for a man to be sexually assaulted, even raped, by a straight man than by a gay man. (Based on extensive research from prisons and war zones.)  Rape and other forms of sexual assault are expressions of power rather than desire.  The media conflates showing attraction to someone with demonstrating power over them.  We need to talk about this.

"Hi, would you like to go out on a date sometime?" changes when there is a stated/implied "or I'll destroy your reputation/you'll be fired."  We need to talk about this.

A lot of people argue that if a man is attracted to someone then he can't control his instinct to rape.  ie Radical Muslims who demand woman cover every visible bit of their flesh, judges who say that a woman wearing a t-shirt was 'asking for it', and homophobes who say gay men can't be soldiers/teachers/athletes/clergy since we are male-rapists awaiting the opportunity.

We need to talk about sexual assault as an action of power.
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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2017, 10:23:15 pm »

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Perhaps I've misunderstood.  Any clarification is welcomed.

Some clarifications:

Paedophilia is a sexual attraction to children.  Outside of 1984, societies don't prosecute 'Thought Crimes'.  Like with Weinstein, he isn't being charged with being 'Heterosexual' AKA attracted to women but for sexually humiliating and assaulting women.

Rape and sexual assault tend to be about power. 

"Hi, would you like to go out on a date sometime?" changes when there is a stated/implied "or I'll destroy your reputation/you'll be fired."  We need to talk about this.

We need to talk about sexual assault as an action of power.

I'm not sure how your first paragraph ties into sexual rape/sexual assault unless you're saying that paedophilia is a form of power abuse. I think the current thinking is that it's a sexual orientation.

When I was growing up in the 70's there was a campaign to define rape not as a sexual act but as one of power and violence. This is how I've (unconsciously) defined rape since. All the SJW insistence that inappropriate sexual advance, pursuing a romantic interest, etc are on par with rape/sexual assault have grated on me because they don't fit with what I grew up understanding rape to be. Thank you for reminding me the better way to talk about rape and sexual assault. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2017, 11:04:34 pm »


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I'm not sure how your first paragraph ties into sexual rape/sexual assault unless you're saying that paedophilia is a form of power abuse. I think the current thinking is that it's a sexual orientation.

I said precisely that 'paedophilia' is an attraction not an act.  If it is not an act it should not be a crime.  Paedophilia or heterosexuality or homosexuality or as-far-as-that-goes liking money are internal.  Only actions should be criminalized.

The example that has burst out on the Internet was the accusation that Kevin Spacey assaulted Anthony Rapp.  Kevin invited Anthony to a party where when they were alone, with neither the consent nor the prior knowledge of Anthony, threw him down on a bed and climbed on top of him.  It would still be a problem had Anthony been an adult rather than a 14 year old at the time.

There's a broad conflation between attraction and assault that has to be decoupled.
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2017, 09:39:14 am »

I agree it's deed, not sexual orientation.    There are a lot of pedos who have not committed any crimes, except "thought crimes".

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20 years ago the Coreys told their story of being molested and abused.     Barbara Walters, in an interview, told them that they need to stop talking about it because they were harming the industry. 

Their careers died because they came out about the abuse they and others suffered.   

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Despite all the claims about Michael Jackson, none of the celeb kids have ever claimed he molested them.   It's always some freak parents with dreams of the CHA-CHING.     Michael Jackson's worst sin is that he wanted to live out the childhood his parents denied him. 

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The Kevin Spacey "incident" is a non-thing because he hit on Anthony Rapp, who said NO and that was the end of it.    Now Netflix has canceled House of Cards over it. 

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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2017, 03:06:00 pm »

They'd decided to cancel House of Cards three months ago.
They are cynically using Kevin Spacey's scandal to make themselves look virtuous.
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2017, 09:44:46 pm »

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I'm not sure how your first paragraph ties into sexual rape/sexual assault unless you're saying that paedophilia is a form of power abuse. I think the current thinking is that it's a sexual orientation.

I said precisely that 'paedophilia' is an attraction not an act.  If it is not an act it should not be a crime.  Paedophilia or heterosexuality or homosexuality or as-far-as-that-goes liking money are internal.  Only actions should be criminalized.

The example that has burst out on the Internet was the accusation that Kevin Spacey assaulted Anthony Rapp.  Kevin invited Anthony to a party where when they were alone, with neither the consent nor the prior knowledge of Anthony, threw him down on a bed and climbed on top of him.  It would still be a problem had Anthony been an adult rather than a 14 year old at the time.

There's a broad conflation between attraction and assault that has to be decoupled.

So you're being semantical? Interesting. It should be clear from the context that I was speaking of pedophilia broadly as in a person acting on those impulses. Rape a child, die.

In addition to decoupling attraction from assault, they need to divorce our current social moors from actions done in the past. There was no culture of consent when Spacey allegedly threw that young man on the bed.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2017, 02:34:12 am »

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I'm not sure how your first paragraph ties into sexual rape/sexual assault unless you're saying that paedophilia is a form of power abuse. I think the current thinking is that it's a sexual orientation.

I said precisely that 'paedophilia' is an attraction not an act.  If it is not an act it should not be a crime.  Paedophilia or heterosexuality or homosexuality or as-far-as-that-goes liking money are internal.  Only actions should be criminalized.

The example that has burst out on the Internet was the accusation that Kevin Spacey assaulted Anthony Rapp.  Kevin invited Anthony to a party where when they were alone, with neither the consent nor the prior knowledge of Anthony, threw him down on a bed and climbed on top of him.  It would still be a problem had Anthony been an adult rather than a 14 year old at the time.

There's a broad conflation between attraction and assault that has to be decoupled.

So you're being semantical? Interesting. It should be clear from the context that I was speaking of pedophilia broadly as in a person acting on those impulses. Rape a child, die.

In addition to decoupling attraction from assault, they need to divorce our current social moors from actions done in the past. There was no culture of consent when Spacey allegedly threw that young man on the bed.

One problem with labeling people as "pedophiles who should be put to death" is that they use the label "pedophile" for a very broad range of actions.   For instance:
Pedophile = man who stuffs his cock up the vagina of a 3 year old girl.
Pedophile = man who pats a 17 year old boy wearing pants on the butt as he walks by. 

I would argue that one should not be put to death for patting someone on the butt.

The media likes to make their reports as salacious as possible to get interest and ratings.   They spice things up...
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2017, 03:18:12 am »

In the UK, a pedo is anyone who has sex with a person under 16yo.

Despite this law being totally gender neutral, the only sex crime that is, it's almost always the boy who gets charged, even if he's the younger of the pair.

It's fucked up. Lots of boys are legally pedos for banging their older girlfriends.   

This is another thing feminists will never talk about.   


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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2017, 05:17:18 am »

In the UK, a pedo is anyone who has sex with a person under 16yo.

Despite this law being totally gender neutral, the only sex crime that is, it's almost always the boy who gets charged, even if he's the younger of the pair.

It's fucked up. Lots of boys are legally pedos for banging their older girlfriends.   

This is another thing feminists will never talk about.   


Christ on a cracker, must topics like pedophilia -- that are overwhelmingly, (and yes  not exclusively) male-based -- get detoured to your terminal issues with women-shaming?
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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2017, 05:53:22 am »

Ah, the usual "just ignore that bit" crap from a feminist. 

As a feminist and SJW, you should DEMAND that the inequalities be gotten rid of.   Then again, you're a feminist and SJW, so you DEMAND we ignore the inequalities.
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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2017, 06:05:32 am »

Under Canadian Law.

14 year olds are capable of consenting to having sex with older people - providing there is no relationship where the older person can exploit the younger one:  his teacher, his hockey coach, his boss, his doctor, his landlord (or the parents landlord.)

If Kevin Spacey had asked Anthony Rapp to have sex it would have been legal under Canadian law.  They were acquaintances.  Grabbing someone, throwing them on a bed, then jumping on top of them without their prior knowledge AND consent is assault no matter what the age.
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« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2017, 06:08:47 am »

Ah, the usual "just ignore that bit" crap from a feminist. 

As a feminist and SJW, you should DEMAND that the inequalities be gotten rid of.   Then again, you're a feminist and SJW, so you DEMAND we ignore the inequalities.

I do favor the elimination of inequalities in justice, as applied to any gender, race and so on.

Can you point me to even a minor trove of examples -- among your many, valued contributions here at GT -- where you have advanced any solutions to issues that disadvantage women in particular?  Because, from what I've seen, you're quite the one-note flute.   Dick
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2017, 06:18:35 am »

Ah, the usual "just ignore that bit" crap from a feminist. 

As a feminist and SJW, you should DEMAND that the inequalities be gotten rid of.   Then again, you're a feminist and SJW, so you DEMAND we ignore the inequalities.

I do favor the elimination of inequalities in justice, as applied to any gender, race and so on.

Can you point me to even a minor trove of examples -- among your many, valued contributions here at GT -- where you have advanced any solutions to issues that disadvantage women in particular?  Because, from what I've seen, you're quite the one-note flute.   Dick

Western women are not oppressed.   

Feminists don't give a shit about women in the 3rd world because then they'd have to face the reality of their bullshit about western women.   

Other than calling me a dick, what have you done here other than push the SJW narrative of "all white men are evil"? 
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« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2017, 06:28:16 am »

Ah, the usual "just ignore that bit" crap from a feminist. 

As a feminist and SJW, you should DEMAND that the inequalities be gotten rid of.   Then again, you're a feminist and SJW, so you DEMAND we ignore the inequalities.

I do favor the elimination of inequalities in justice, as applied to any gender, race and so on.

Can you point me to even a minor trove of examples -- among your many, valued contributions here at GT -- where you have advanced any solutions to issues that disadvantage women in particular?  Because, from what I've seen, you're quite the one-note flute.   Dick

Western women are not oppressed.   

Feminists don't give a shit about women in the 3rd world because then they'd have to face the reality of their bullshit about western women.   

Other than calling me a dick, what have you done here other than push the SJW narrative of "all white men are evil"? 


And now, I only ask you to provide the citation/thread with my usage of any combination of words that equate to "white men" being "evil," and I'll do your laundry for a year.
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