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« on: November 09, 2017, 10:12:48 am »

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Cracker and penis possessor, Spencer Raymond,  is the victim of anti-white hatred and misandry from the left for daring to run for city council in Portland OR, for daring to run against 3 non-whites with vaginas. 

Ok, let's play for a bit. 

If feminists and their cucks are for gender equality, then why the fuck have they not stood up against this shit and defend his right, under gender equality, to run for office?! 

If the left is against racism and sexism, then why the fuck are they telling a white male can't run for office because he's a white male?! 

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I'm sure the leftists will ignore this, like always.   

If they do bother to respond, it will be some bullshit mental gymnastics to justify being hypocrites about their claims of equality and whatnot.

Of course there's the butthurt bitches that are upset that they can't get a decent ratio so they will attack me, a staff member, because of it.   
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 07:41:29 pm »

I'll be happy to respond, and to point out some facts that have been conveniently omitted to make your account fit your worldview more snugly.

Portland is a city of 600,000, incorporated in 1851, that has never had a woman of color of the City Council.  In the upcoming race, however, there are three such women running.  And as you pointed out, a young white man more recently announced his candidacy.

Now, in the United States, we enjoy the freedom to run for elected office, as well as the freedom to voice our opinions on those who run, including their experience, qualifications and other factors germane to a political race.

And here's where your strange void of information appears.

Among the female candidates, Jo Ann Hardesty is a former state lawmaker; Loretta Smith is a Multnomah County Commissioner; and Andrea Valderrama is a City Council staffer.

The newest candidate, Spencer Raymond, 30, is a white guy with zero political experience.  His qualification, a term I use loosely, is that he's the Coach of the Lake Oswego Ski Team.

And with that information on the table (though not in your post), one can see why some Oregon political observers have perceived Raymond's last-minute entry in the race as opportunistic.  Raymond is an Anglo "any-man" who figures he's got a decent chance to benefit from a divided field, and can slalom to victory with the "I'm more comfortable with a white guy" vote.

Even so, Spencer has the absolute right to run for City Council, as much as the citizenry and press have a right to question his motivation and qualifications.  People even have the right to suggest he leave the race, as much as he has the right to stay in the race.  And neo-cons have the freedom to support Spencer, the candidate who has never spent a day working in government.

And yes, it seems like ALL sides are playing identity politics, so no one here has the higher moral ground.  In the end, it may hinge on whether the council has a run-off system of the two highest vote-getters, if no one attains a 50 percent-plus-one.  Perhaps you can invest some honest and useful research on that angle.

And while your original post carries all the weight of a YouTube video from renowned political pundit "Wild Smile," here's an example of what an actual news citation looks like:
 
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/377206-263279-sources-say-identity-politics-in-city-council-race
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2017, 07:59:02 pm »

Umm, Portland is also the place that has anti-whiteness seminars at the college.

You are trying to make it sound as though leftist are against him running because he isn't qualified, which is complete BS.   They don't want him to run because he's white and has a penis.     
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2017, 09:06:52 pm »

Umm, Portland is also the place that has anti-whiteness seminars at the college.

You are trying to make it sound as though leftist are against him running because he isn't qualified, which is complete BS.   They don't want him to run because he's white and has a penis.     

We're not talking about college seminars, we're talking about a City Council seat.

Ski coach Spencer Raymond has no past political or governmental efforts to his credit, he's an eleventh-hour opportunist, and yes, those factors are of concern to Portland citizens of any color who are looking for a serious, committed and knowledgeable candidate.

And you didn't have information about the four candidates' prior qualifications because you write solely to seethe and provoke, using YouTube videos as a primary -- and often enough, singular -- source for commentary that you erroneously equate with reporting.
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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2017, 09:43:15 pm »

And you are still ignoring that most of the people against him running are only opposed to his campaign because he is white and has a penis.   
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2017, 10:06:27 pm »

And you are still ignoring that most of the people against him running are only opposed to his campaign because he is white and has a penis.   

I'm not ignoring your claim. 

I'm dismissing it as the detritus from a long-running, unhealthy obsession with "otherness" as juxtaposed with "whiteness" and "maleness."
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2017, 10:08:32 pm »

And you are still ignoring that most of the people against him running are only opposed to his campaign because he is white and has a penis.   

And here you go thinking you're spouting wisdom when you're making the SJW argument again.

1) You're saying the SJW is telling people to vote for Her because She is a POC and doesn't have a penis; you're indirectly saying they should vote for Him because he's white and got a penis. #That'sHowLanguageWorks #StopPlayingIdentityPolitics

2) You're implying that all of Portland is one big love fest of SJW who see nothing but identity politics and not experience. #Prejudice

3) You simply ignore the facts that Flozen brought. When someone does that to you, you bitch and complain about it. #PlayByYourOwnRules #AcknowledgeTheFacts #MakeACompromise.

As Flozen said, people are playing identity politics in Portland. It's your turn to acknowledge that the three candidates are better qualified THEN to say something like identity politics are distracting from the real issues like x, y, and z. Seriously, I used to teach elementary in the US before I came to Japan and elementary kids can do this. Why can't adults on a forum? This way of arguing is literally (the word used in it's original, correct meaning) what kindergarteners do.

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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2017, 10:35:56 pm »

Umm, Portland is also the place that has anti-whiteness seminars at the college.

You are trying to make it sound as though leftist are against him running because he isn't qualified, which is complete BS.   They don't want him to run because he's white and has a penis.     

We're not talking about college seminars, we're talking about a City Council seat.

Ski coach Spencer Raymond has no past political or governmental efforts to his credit, he's an eleventh-hour opportunist, and yes, those factors are of concern to Portland citizens of any color who are looking for a serious, committed and knowledgeable candidate.

And you didn't have information about the four candidates' prior qualifications because you write solely to seethe and provoke, using YouTube videos as a primary -- and often enough, singular -- source for commentary that you erroneously equate with reporting.

There are 19,354 cities in the USA.   Since when does someone need a stellar resume to be on a city council? 
Just TODAY on the History Channel they pointed out that David Dwight Eisenhower was made a 5 star General and the Supreme Commander in WW2.. even though he served ZERO time in active duty in WW1.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2017, 10:38:29 pm »

And you are still ignoring that most of the people against him running are only opposed to his campaign because he is white and has a penis.   

And here you go thinking you're spouting wisdom when you're making the SJW argument again.

1) You're saying the SJW is telling people to vote for Her because She is a POC and doesn't have a penis; you're indirectly saying they should vote for Him because he's white and got a penis. #That'sHowLanguageWorks #StopPlayingIdentityPolitics

2) You're implying that all of Portland is one big love fest of SJW who see nothing but identity politics and not experience. #Prejudice

3) You simply ignore the facts that Flozen brought. When someone does that to you, you bitch and complain about it. #PlayByYourOwnRules #AcknowledgeTheFacts #MakeACompromise.

As Flozen said, people are playing identity politics in Portland. It's your turn to acknowledge that the three candidates are better qualified THEN to say something like identity politics are distracting from the real issues like x, y, and z. Seriously, I used to teach elementary in the US before I came to Japan and elementary kids can do this. Why can't adults on a forum? This way of arguing is literally (the word used in it's original, correct meaning) what kindergarteners do.



As a rule of "thumb" it is usually best to ignore comments made by people with long red lines under their names like a burning fire.  Reading the comments of red-liners is like reading the comic funnies in a newspaper. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2017, 10:50:17 pm »


As a rule of "thumb" it is usually best to ignore comments made by people with long red lines under their names like a burning fire.  Reading the comments of red-liners is like reading the comic funnies in a newspaper. 

That's your opinion, not mine.

As I told you in private, since reputation is automatically generated by the volume of posts over time and colored by members it's not an accurate representation of quality. If we divide reputation by thumbs up/down, then we have a more accurate representation of a person's contributions.

What Flozen did is present facts that rh--- did not. Taken together we know there is a problem with identity politics in Portland but no one is going to solve it by continuing to play identity politics. That's the point.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2017, 11:20:12 pm »


As a rule of "thumb" it is usually best to ignore comments made by people with long red lines under their names like a burning fire.  Reading the comments of red-liners is like reading the comic funnies in a newspaper. 

That's your opinion, not mine.

As I told you in private, since reputation is automatically generated by the volume of posts over time and colored by members it's not an accurate representation of quality. If we divide reputation by thumbs up/down, then we have a more accurate representation of a person's contributions.

What Flozen did is present facts that rh--- did not. Taken together we know there is a problem with identity politics in Portland but no one is going to solve it by continuing to play identity politics. That's the point.

Who is rh---?   Is that someone like Voldemort whose name shall not be spoken?
Was Rhett Butler posting in here?  Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

You didn't tell me in private that reputation is automatically generated.. I told YOU that.  More specifically, people start out green like a sprout.. and over time, they automatically would grow longer slowly even with nobody else interacting with them.  Someone can get a long green line faster if they make excellent posts and other people interact by adding to their reputation positively.  The only way someone can go red is if they post some crap that pissed someone off enough to make someone give them a negative hit. 

It's also fascinating that the small group of people who have the lowest reputations on this site are the same losers that spend untold hours banging away on the "thumbs" button which has zero relevance at all.  As I recall, there was a total asshole named DrWuss who single handedly sent one guy's 20,000+ thumbs UP that took several YEARS to build to a negative 20,000 in just a few months.  To bad for that idiot DrPus though.. because his efforts wound up resulting in the termination of his account.  Let him go watch straight porn!  Ha! 
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2017, 11:54:58 pm »


Who is rh---?   Is that someone like Voldemort whose name shall not be spoken?
Was Rhett Butler posting in here?  Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

Your name and Flozen are easy to remember. Without rap--- or whatever's name being directly below me to see, I have no reference to remember his handle. If it has a meaning for me to wrap my mind 'round, let me know. Wink

Things turn red if and when people chose to mark them lower. It obviously has meaning to you, so you do it. For other people, like me, it's the thumbs up/down. Put them together and you get a better representation. Choosing one over the other is ignoring half the data. If you're choosing outliers, that flat-earther gave me five minus reputations in a row in my first week here. The bias you're saying exists in the thumbs up/down symbol works both ways. Dividing the two sums doesn't work for you, so you're against it; it works for me, so I'm for it. #BiasAtWork

Also, look at the thumbs up and down on a given post. The higher the number in either direction tells us the feelings generated real time. 
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2017, 12:35:09 am »


Who is rh---?   Is that someone like Voldemort whose name shall not be spoken?
Was Rhett Butler posting in here?  Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

Your name and Flozen are easy to remember. Without rap--- or whatever's name being directly below me to see, I have no reference to remember his handle. If it has a meaning for me to wrap my mind 'round, let me know. Wink

Things turn red if and when people chose to mark them lower. It obviously has meaning to you, so you do it. For other people, like me, it's the thumbs up/down. Put them together and you get a better representation. Choosing one over the other is ignoring half the data. If you're choosing outliers, that flat-earther gave me five minus reputations in a row in my first week here. The bias you're saying exists in the thumbs up/down symbol works both ways. Dividing the two sums doesn't work for you, so you're against it; it works for me, so I'm for it. #BiasAtWork

Also, look at the thumbs up and down on a given post. The higher the number in either direction tells us the feelings generated real time. 

Wow... Mhorndisk did that?   Take a look at when he did that.. I guarantee those 5 hits are spread out over a period of days or maybe weeks.  With the THUMBS.. any fool can do 5 hits a minute easily.  I've explained this in detail many times.  Thumbs really don't mean squat.  Just the fact that the people who are hitting those thumbs are the half dozen morons with the lowest reputations on the site shows that.  The fact that the moonbats spend so much time banging away on those meaningless thumbs makes me laugh.. and also shows how much it drives them nuts to have a negative reputation.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2017, 05:21:46 am »

And you are still ignoring that most of the people against him running are only opposed to his campaign because he is white and has a penis.   

And here you go thinking you're spouting wisdom when you're making the SJW argument again.

1) You're saying the SJW is telling people to vote for Her because She is a POC and doesn't have a penis; you're indirectly saying they should vote for Him because he's white and got a penis. #That'sHowLanguageWorks #StopPlayingIdentityPolitics

2) You're implying that all of Portland is one big love fest of SJW who see nothing but identity politics and not experience. #Prejudice

3) You simply ignore the facts that Flozen brought. When someone does that to you, you bitch and complain about it. #PlayByYourOwnRules #AcknowledgeTheFacts #MakeACompromise.

As Flozen said, people are playing identity politics in Portland. It's your turn to acknowledge that the three candidates are better qualified THEN to say something like identity politics are distracting from the real issues like x, y, and z. Seriously, I used to teach elementary in the US before I came to Japan and elementary kids can do this. Why can't adults on a forum? This way of arguing is literally (the word used in it's original, correct meaning) what kindergarteners do.



Stop fucking telling me what I must do.   


People are saying he can't run for office because he is white and has a penis.    Very few have questioned his qualifications, from the comments I've seen.    Now if they were bitching about his lack of qualifications, then i wouldn't care about this story.   


Are you still butt hurt because I showed that you are a vile asshole who wants to murder innocent men?   REALLY?!   How sad.   blow nose 


It's funny how you and the SJWs are in a little circle jerk, because "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".     You clowns are all butthurt because I disagree with you in some way or another, so you clubbed together against me.    It's funny how you and I got along until you told the world how you support murdering innocent men and I called you out on it.   It shows that SJWs don't believe black lives matter because they downvoted my comments against your BS, even when I showed it would hurt black people more. 
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2017, 05:48:56 am »

Stop fucking telling me what I must do.   

Or what?

Don't like being told you're wrong? Don't like to be told how to be better? If you can't take it, don't dish it out. That's all you do.


Are you still butt hurt because I showed that you are a vile asshole who wants to murder innocent men?   REALLY?!   How sad.   blow nose  

You didn't show me anything.

You haven't said a single thing that's changed my mind. You've said things I agree with, occasionally post an article that's actually interesting, but most often you rant as though you're important. You're not.


It's funny how you and the SJWs are in a little circle jerk, because "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".     You clowns are all butthurt because I disagree with you in some way or another, so you clubbed together against me.    It's funny how you and I got along until you told the world how you support murdering innocent men and I called you out on it.   It shows that SJWs don't believe black lives matter because they downvoted my comments against your BS, even when I showed it would hurt black people more. 

We got on because you posted things I agree with. We don't get on now because you act like a child. I know because I've taught children for more than 20 years. The only thing different in your recent rhetoric and an elementary child's has been the cursing. You're just doing the teen version of calling people a big stupid or a dumb dumb because you has words.

To the bolded, you are unimportant.

No one is clubbing against you. One person is telling you facts and the other, me, is pointing out that you're ignoring them and showing you your hypocrisy. You don't know how to argue and so you're having a tantrum.

There was a member here when I first started posting. Mhorn or somesuch. He, too, thought he was all important and preaching The Word. He was banned. Not a word of mourning anywhere. In fact, the site and comments seem to be flowing just fine without him. Remember, you are as unimportant as him. I am also unimportant. The difference is that when I chose to leave I'll leave with integrity and with quite a lot of off-site friendships.
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2017, 06:02:36 am »

Oh shut up.   

You are a vile asshole who supports murdering innocent men.   

LOL.  You are so pathetic.  You come in here, telling me what to do and you claim I think I'm important.  You're a joke. 

There you go again, ad hominem attacks.   

I may be "unimportant" but you bitches feel the need to clump together and downvote my posts, regardless what I say on a topic.   This shit has been going on for the last 2 years here. 

A "tantrum"?   WOW, it's called a tantrum because I pointed out that the people against the person running for office is a white male and that is the sole reason they are butthurt over it.  You really are a pathetic loser. 

LOL, "I have friends off-site, you don't. "  More crap to make yourself look like someone of importance.   

Everything about you screams SJW.   
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2017, 07:28:35 am »

There you go again, ad hominem attacks.    

Ah, a teachable moment. An ad hominem attack is when one assails another's character rather than address the issue at hand. That has not happened. Flozen gave facts, which you ignored. I pointed out that you ignored these fact so that the topic could move forward rather than spin in circles. Both Flozen and I agreed with your point about identity politics. No one insulted you to distract from the topic; in fact, we would like to stay on topic.

My pointing out that you present yourself as a teenager is an fact insult. An insult is not an ad hominem though, it is true, the can sometimes be one and the same


I may be "unimportant" but you bitches feel the need to clump together and downvote my posts, regardless what I say on a topic.   This shit has been going on for the last 2 years here. 

Click the little thumbs up/down icon by my avatar. I rarely use the thumbs down. I have not used it on you save for yesterday when I was done that other conversation. If you're earning thumbs down then they aren't coming from me. The thumbs down are the correct response to how you present yourself. I keep telling you, you're not arguing but rehashing the same SJW line of reasoning -- it's boring and shows a dull mind. Again, insult, not ad hominem.


Everything about you screams SJW.   

This is borderline ad hominem. If your meaning is that everything I say is irrelevant because I'm an SJW, then you provided us with a good example of an Ad Hominem Argument. If you're trying to give an insult, then Fred is wrong, you are not number one but a loud number two. (That is an insult.)


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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2017, 07:30:06 am »

Using the SJW argument, as seen by flozen's post, this "crack whore" is much more qualified than any white male to be a city councillor because she a a VoC.  

Since the council never had a VoC on the council, they NEED one.    Even flozen's link admits it's identity politics.

It was the same argument with Hillary.   We need to elect her because we never had a woman President.  It had nothing to do with who's best for the job, but her vag vs his penis.  

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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2017, 07:32:59 am »

LOL,

"I'm insulting you, not ad hominems".   

Pathetic.

You do nothing but argue about me, not what I say.   Says everything about you, doesn't it.
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« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2017, 07:46:45 am »

And you are still ignoring that most of the people against him running are only opposed to his campaign because he is white and has a penis.   

I'm not ignoring your claim. 

I'm dismissing it as the detritus from a long-running, unhealthy obsession with "otherness" as juxtaposed with "whiteness" and "maleness."

LOL, how sad. 

Even you admitted, as did your link, that it was about identity politics.   

SJWs are truly blinded by their anti-white male hatred.     I mean, you think women in the west are oppressed. 
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