Should gender determine when the death penalty is used?
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« on: November 10, 2017, 01:26:41 pm »

Here is a link to an exhaustive, and frankly, too long dissertation on the disparity of the application of the death penalty based upon gender. 
Basically it boils down to men are 7 times as likely to be executed as women for the same crimes.
Overall, only about 1.5% of convicted murderers are executed (and those are mainly in Texas and Florida). 

The idea that the death penalty is a deterrent or fair is obviously nonsense since the only way someone gets executed is when the case becomes a media circus and the defense is incompetent.


http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/students/groups/oslj/files/2012/03/63.1.streib.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 06:02:29 pm »

I'm an egalitarian, so I believe in true gender equality.   

Feminists and their cucks want special rights for women.    You will never see a feminist campaign for gender equality in the justice system. 
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 09:17:29 pm »

Lady justice is blind to sex.  What counts is the CRIME.... the law does not see gender. 
My best friends husband is a criminal attorney and he tells us his horror stories on a daily basis.
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 01:29:17 am »

I try to stay away from politics but...

Do you seriously trust the government with the power to kill its own citizens?
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 04:43:49 am »

Here is a link to an exhaustive, and frankly, too long dissertation on the disparity of the application of the death penalty based upon gender. 
Basically it boils down to men are 7 times as likely to be executed as women for the same crimes.
Overall, only about 1.5% of convicted murderers are executed (and those are mainly in Texas and Florida). 

The idea that the death penalty is a deterrent or fair is obviously nonsense since the only way someone gets executed is when the case becomes a media circus and the defense is incompetent.

It's cultural.

Western people value women more than some cultures, so fewer women are put on death row. Contrast that with a Middle Eastern country or India where women are looked down upon and the gender noticeably flips.

I heard in China it's pretty even but here in Japan I've never heard of a woman being executed.


To the death penalty being a deterrent, I'd go back to literature at the turn of the last century and before. Even in films from the 30's people are afraid of The Chair.  Go back further to the UK and they were brutal about the death penalty. There's a three-part tv miniseries (I haven't gotten around to watching) called Gunsmoke that shows the death penalty as a part of daily life, a kind of spectacle. The further we remove death from the public view the more abstract it becomes and the less impact it likely has.

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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2017, 06:35:00 am »

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Contrast that with a Middle Eastern country or India where women are looked down upon and the gender noticeably flips.   

However, in India women can not legally commit domestic violence or sex crimes.      Back in 2012/13 they tried to change this to equalize the law but feminists from all over the world went nuts. 

Similar thing when the UK tried to equalize the sex crime laws the last 3 times since 2003.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2017, 06:42:33 am »

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Contrast that with a Middle Eastern country or India where women are looked down upon and the gender noticeably flips.   

However, in India women can not legally commit domestic violence or sex crimes.      Back in 2012/13 they tried to change this to equalize the law but feminists from all over the world went nuts. 

I lived in India for half a year, in Hyderabad. Amazing experience.

I don't know what your point is about India. India makes no effort to bathe itself in western values. Women in India are still burned alive instead of being given a divorce. This might have changed since I was there but I my schoolmate said that women couldn't own land and that it's very difficult for a woman to be the sole proprietor of a business without a man being somehow in perceived control. It would suck to be a low born woman in India.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2017, 06:53:28 am »

My point is exactly what I said.   

Women in India can not legally commit sex crimes or domestic violence.   

While they have some bad, they have some good.    It's also very different based on what caste they are born into.   It's a cultural thing, not a legal thing.   The laws are the same for everyone, but the cultural rules are not.

There's a region in India where it's a total matriarchy.  It's the same if not worse than the rest of India, just with the genders flipped.   Nothing is done about the problems there because of the laws of India don't cover the crap happening there due to gender. 

While domestic violence, sex crimes and whatnot may be/are common in India, they are still crimes, unless it's a woman doing it.

Here's an article from the UK's ultra left "newspaper" the Guardian;

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/18/india-khasi-women-politics-bouissou
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2017, 06:54:26 am »

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Contrast that with a Middle Eastern country or India where women are looked down upon and the gender noticeably flips.   

However, in India women can not legally commit domestic violence or sex crimes.      Back in 2012/13 they tried to change this to equalize the law but feminists from all over the world went nuts. 

I lived in India for half a year, in Hyderabad. Amazing experience.

I don't know what your point is about India. India makes no effort to bathe itself in western values. Women in India are still burned alive instead of being given a divorce. This might have changed since I was there but I my schoolmate said that women couldn't own land and that it's very difficult for a woman to be the sole proprietor of a business without a man being somehow in perceived control. It would suck to be a low born woman in India.


People in India make little effort to bathe at all... and Pakistan is much worse.
When the greatest achievement of a country is a giant mausoleum built by a madman (the Taj Majal), that says volumes about the country.  

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2017, 07:03:08 am »

People in India make little effort to bathe at all... and Pakistan is much worse.
When the greatest achievement of a country is a giant mausoleum built by a madman (the Taj Majal), that says volumes about the country.  

Fred. ...

I'm not even going to bother.
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And isn't this topic about the death penalty? Funny how someone can take literally any comment and bring it back to the ultra left.

"I have gas today."
"Why that sounds like the Ultra Left."

"Today is my mom's birthday."
"Damn feminists thinking the day they were born is special."

"Hey, look, cookies!"
"Did you know men aren't allowed to bake cookies if they're white and have a penis?"
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2017, 07:11:00 am »

People in India make little effort to bathe at all... and Pakistan is much worse.
When the greatest achievement of a country is a giant mausoleum built by a madman (the Taj Majal), that says volumes about the country.  

Fred. ...

I'm not even going to bother.
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And isn't this topic about the death penalty? Funny how someone can take literally any comment and bring it back to the ultra left.

"I have gas today."
"Why that sounds like the Ultra Left."

"Today is my mom's birthday."
"Damn feminists thinking the day they were born is special."

"Hey, look, cookies!"
"Did you know men aren't allowed to bake cookies if they're white and have a penis?"

Now that you mention it.. some of the worst smelling farts are those resulting from eating a lot of curry!  PHEW!  Another reason to stay away from India!
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2017, 07:17:50 am »

I mentioned the "ultra left" so you got the context of the story.     The slant would be different if it was in, oh say, the Daily Mail.

And YES, political leanings do matter in political discussions.   

See, you're a dickhead and you keep trying to pick fights, while playing the victimized saint.
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2017, 02:50:09 pm »

Now that you mention it.. some of the worst smelling farts are those resulting from eating a lot of curry!  PHEW!  Another reason to stay away from India!

Oddly, I had what we call a Curry Party tonight. About six years ago I took an extended summer holiday at Indian cooking school in Hyderabad then went back to the same school the next year. The two trips combined, I spent six months learning how to cook Indian food -- my Indian food is amazing. If it's cooked well, you won't get gas. Wink


What were we talking about? (scrolling back)
Death Penalty --> Gender and death penalty --> Death Penalty is different in Western Countries than Eastern Countries --> Feminists were angry that someone tried to rewrite Indian legislation so that woman can also be seen as sex offenders --> me pointing out that someone has a one track mind.

I think we were supposed to be discussing the death penalty and how women are 7 times less likely to be executed for the same crime in the west. I think it's sad (and telling) that in Muslim countries women get the death penalty frequently for breaches of Sharia Law. I also wonder how much more likely it is for a woman to commit the kinds of crimes that lead to executions in western countries?
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2017, 04:42:33 pm »

it's pathetic that feminists will get butthurt about man-spreading, which isn't a gendered thing if you look on line, but they don't cry about the abuse women in muslim countries face.   

Nor will feminists campaign to end the gender sentencing gap in the west.   

Linda "the Cockroach" Sarsour says that women should have FGM and any woman who disagrees with her should have their vagina taken away, is praised by feminists.
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