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« on: January 08, 2018, 01:43:17 pm »

I got ahold of two formats of "Fire and Fury".   I was going to post it here, but it is so boring I would feel guilty for robbing people out of a few hours of their lives reading it.  If someone suffers from insomnia.. I will post it for you. 

It's a good thing that book was published.  If it had been banned, people would thing there were fascinating bombshells in that book.  By publishing it, we now know that it is a very short book.. and quite boring. 

The author can't seem to complete a paragraph without including at least one word that over 99% of the population never saw before and would need a dictionary to look up.  The author didn't even use the words appropriately.  The use of such esoteric words is a method often employed by bullshit artists to disguise themselves as intellectuals.  Being an intellectual myself.. let me tell you, the author is no intellectual.. he's a bullshit artist.  A true intellectual knows that to communicate effectively and clearly, one must make their prose understandable to their audience - which in this case would be the American public.  One rule of thumb is never use a word that you don't know how to spell or don't know the meaning of. 

Let me give you an idea about how this book was written.  Think back to when you were in school, and the teacher assigned you to write an essay of 5000 words on how to brush your teeth.  I always had problems with assignments like that, because I try to get to communicate with as few words as possible, and as clearly as possible.  One reason for doing that is when giving instructions or rules, every word you use is one more chance for someone to get confused, misinterpret, or intentionally twist your meaning.  Anyway.. when given such as assignment, the student is forced to use 10 times as many words as necessary to convey their information.  That "Fire and Fury" book is much like that.   

Here is an example of what I mean:
Instead of writing:  "Bannon said Jared Kushner met with the Russians".  This book would have something like:
"On a particularly humid day in May 2016 at 1:22 PM in the atrium of the Waldorf Hotel on the corner of 48th avenue and St. James Boulevard,  Steve Bannon sipped upon a steaming mug of coffee with 2 lumps of sugar and a tablespoon of Cremora non-dairy creamer.  The mug was emblazoned with a portrait of Scarlett O'Hara from the 1942 film "Gone With The Wind" which won best picture and was directed by Oscar Demille 3 years before he died of food poisining in his estate that was built during the civil war in the lower east side of Charlotte North Carolina.  As Bannon sat contemplating the events of the day, and after ingesting a large bran muffin top from Starbucks, he excused himself to partake of the porcelain amenities in the nearby restroom.  As Steve stood up to make his way to the depository for his fecal waste, he let loose a burst of flatuence which permeated the air with the scent of sauerkraut mixed with a hint of lavender and burnt Michelin tires.  When Steve returned from the "chamber of secrets", he blurted out with aplomb, "Jared Kushner met with the Russians".    "

Yes, I made that up.. but then again, that moron Michael Wolff made up his nonsense also.  That is the style and method employed in that book.
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2018, 02:16:41 pm »

The author admitted that most of the stuff is unprovable and he wrote the narrative that suited his opinion of what happened. 

There's plenty of videos on YouTube about this, many even show him admitting it.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2018, 05:10:25 pm »

The author admitted that most of the stuff is unprovable and he wrote the narrative that suited his opinion of what happened. 

There's plenty of videos on YouTube about this, many even show him admitting it.

That's also true!

But... that author has also said that his book will get Trump removed from office.. which is ridiculous.   Now that this book has been published, it is this BOOK that is the proverbial "Emporer has no clothes". 
If this book had been prevented from being published, people would have gone crazy with speculation over what the book contained.

The suckers are the people that paid money for that crap. 

The book is so absurd, that I almost wonder if the author wrote it as a parody... ridiculing the "fake news". 

One thing that bothers me is that the author claims to still have contacts within the White House and says Trump is boiling angry about the book.  I doubt that is the case at all.  Trump is probably relieved that the book carries no punch.  However, it's quite disturbing that there may be "spies" inside the White House spreading crazy gossip. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2018, 11:46:22 pm »

I've read it. Some parts clearly unreliable but paints a great picture of the mental instability of the "President" and the disfunction in the white house. I wonder if members of the cabinet are allowed to carry firearms in the white house. I hope so.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 03:11:19 am »

The general theme of the early part of the book that neither Trump, his family or his campaign expected him to win, so they didn't plan for the disaster if he did makes a lot of sense. It explains why he refused to release his tax returns or even consider the conflicts of interests with his business. Why should he if he wasn't going to win? They were all just hoping for fame and for careers in the right wing media out of nearly winning.

"He had somehow won the race for president, but his brain seemed incapable of performing what would be essential tasks in his new job. He had no ability to plan and organize and pay attention and switch focus; he had never been able to tailor his behavior to what the goals at hand reasonably required. On the most basic level, he simply could not link cause and effect."
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 06:56:39 am »

I've read it. Some parts clearly unreliable but paints a great picture of the mental instability of the "President" and the disfunction in the white house. I wonder if members of the cabinet are allowed to carry firearms in the white house. I hope so.

You didn't read squat.  You don't make any sense either.  Must be the effect of eating too much curry.  You've curried your noodle.
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 08:11:45 am »

Also interesting that "anti-PC" "Freedom of Speech" Trumpazee has got his lawyers to try to shut the book down. The response from the publisher's lawyers is perfect:

An attorney for the publisher of Michael Wolff’s book Fire and Fury says no retraction or apology is coming.

In a response to Harder [The Trumpazee's lawyer] that was shared with the Associated Press, Elizabeth A McNamara of the firm David Wright Tremaine writes that the book is “an accurate report” and says Harder failed to cite any specific errors.

McNamara writes that former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, whose explosive quotes helped make the book a bestseller, spoke “freely and voluntarily” to author Wolff.

And Yes, I have read it and I find it very believable.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/08/no-apology-for-fire-and-fury-says-trump-book-publishers-lawyer
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 09:01:00 am »

BTW, I didn't come across a single word that I had to look up and English is my thirdish language (post Kannada and Tamil). You say each paragraph has a word 99% of the population has never seen before? That's sad but unsurprising. Do you have an example? "Encomium"?
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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 09:20:05 am »

The Guardian is a very far left rag, so anything they say has to be taken in that light.  

One example is that they reported that 24% of the homeless in the UK was women.   They deleted any comments that reminded people that 76% of the homeless were men.   They also deleted comments about how the UK, despite gender equality laws making it illegal, gives women priority over men when it comes to getting help not to be homeless.  
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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 10:13:51 am »

Yes, the Guardian is a more progressive news organisation, but they were only the messenger. The political leanings of the messenger don't have any bearings on the publisher's lawyer's response, however, I'm more interested in the words in each paragraph that 99% of your population never saw before and need a dictionary to look up. Shall I pick a paragraph at random?

"These powerful figures tried to convey a sense of real-world politics, which they all claimed to comprehend at some significantly higher threshold than the soon-to-be president. They were all concerned that Trump [the Trumpanzee] did not understand what he was up against. That there was simply not enough method to his madness. Each of these interlocutors provided Kushner with something of a tutorial on the limitations of presidential power— that Washington was as much designed to frustrate and undermine presidential power as to accommodate it."

Wolff, Michael. Fire and Fury (Kindle Locations 774-776). Little, Brown Book Group. Kindle Edition. (corrections in square brackets mine)

Surely not "interlocutors"?
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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2018, 01:46:50 pm »

BTW, I didn't come across a single word that I had to look up and English is my thirdish language (post Kannada and Tamil). You say each paragraph has a word 99% of the population has never seen before? That's sad but unsurprising. Do you have an example? "Encomium"?

I deleted the book.. but I'll download it again for free. 

Encomium is certainly one of those words that 99% of the population has never seen before.  Neither you nor I have either.
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 12:14:39 am »

Yes I've certainly read the word "encomium" many times before, even in my school days, but I've looked up the word statistics and it isn't in the top 20,000 words in American English, so it must be true. I didn't realise I was in the top 1%.

But you said that there was a top 1% word in every paragraph as well as spelling errors. Let me know when you've downloaded it again.

Here is a sample with my annotations:

A vivid picture was painted for the preternaturally [weirdly or unnaturally] composed Kushner [money launderer and shady real estate agent] of spies and their power, of how secrets were passed out of the intelligence community to former members of the community or to other allies in Congress or even to persons in the executive branch and then to the press. One of Kushner’s [see above] now-frequent wise-men callers was Henry Kissinger [war criminal]. Kissinger [war criminal], who had been a front-row witness when the bureaucracy and intelligence community revolted against Richard Nixon [criminal in multiple arenas], outlined the kinds of mischief, and worse, that the new administration could face. “Deep state,” the left-wing and right-wing notion of an intelligence-network permanent-government conspiracy, part of the Breitbart lexicon [vocabulary/dictionary], became the Trump [the Trumpanzee] team term of art: he’s poked the deep state bear. Names were put to this: John Brennan [war criminal], the CIA director; JamesClapper [war criminal], the director of national intelligence; Susan Rice [war criminal], the outgoing National Security Advisor; and Ben Rhodes [war criminal], Rice’s deputy and an Obama [war criminal] favorite. Movie scenarios were painted: a cabal [conspiring faction] of intelligence community myrmidons [Remember the movie "Troy" with Brad Pitt as Achilles and someone else as his boyfriend Patroclus leading a band of ferocious warriors that went on strike? Well they were the Myrmidons - Yes, it should be capitalised], privy to all sorts of damning evidence of Trump’s recklessness and dubious dealings, would, with a strategic schedule of wounding, embarrassing, and distracting leaks, make it impossible for the Trump White House to govern. What Kushner was told, again and again, is that the president had to make amends. He had to reach out. He had to mollify. These were forces not to be trifled with was said with utmost gravity. Throughout the campaign and even more forcefully after the election, Trump had targeted the American intelligence community— the CIA, FBI, NSC, and, altogether, seventeen separate intelligence agencies— as incompetent and mendacious [untruthful, but that is superfluous in context]. (His message was “on auto pilot,” said one aide.) Among the various and plentiful Trump mixed messages at odds with conservative orthodoxy, this was a particularly juicy one. His case against American intelligence included its [intentionally] faulty information about weapons of mass destruction that preceded the Iraq war, a litany of Obama [war criminal] Afghanistan-Iraq-Syria-Libya and other war-related intelligence [intentional] failures, and, more recently, but by no means least of all, intelligence leaks regarding his purported Russian relationships and subterfuges [lies and deceptions, also superfluous since the subject is the Trumpanzee]. Trump’s [The Trumpanzee's] criticism seemed to align him with the left in its half century of making a bogeyman [bad guy] of American intelligence agencies. But, in quite some reversal, the liberals and the intelligence community were now aligned in their horror of Donald Trump [The Trumpanzee]. Much of the left— which had resoundingly and scathingly rejected the intelligence community’s unambiguous assessment of Edward Snowden as a betrayer of national secrets rather than a well-intentioned whistle-blower— now suddenly embraced the intelligence community’s authority in its suggestion of Trump’s [The Trumpanzee's] nefarious [criminal and immoral] relationships with the Russians. Trump [The Trumpanzee] was dangerously out in the cold.

Wolff, Michael. Fire and Fury (Kindle Locations 780-802). Little, Brown Book Group. Kindle Edition. (Annotations in square brackets mine)
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 05:20:57 am »

Yes I've certainly read the word "encomium" many times before, even in my school days, but I've looked up the word statistics and it isn't in the top 20,000 words in American English, so it must be true. I didn't realise I was in the top 1%.

But you said that there was a top 1% word in every paragraph as well as spelling errors. Let me know when you've downloaded it again.

I find it disturbing that you spent so much time analyzing that book, yet instead of realizing that it is a pile of garbage, you absorbed it like a sponge.  I have made it a practice to not subject my brain to bullshit.. nor to subject my brain to drugs or alcohol. 

I must mention one trick in reading a book or article.  Remove all the adjectives and read it.  There is software commonly available which is able to identify grammar, so there should be a way to identify all adjectives and either highlight or delete them.  Adjectives are almost always "opinions", and opinions tend to be worthless. 

I just thought of something else to do.. run that book through a language TRANSLATOR.. and then back to English again.  That should be fascinating.   

One other point.. a very common characteristic of writers who studied language in college is to imbue their prose with such words as "imbue"  to make it seem like they are intelligent and credible.  The reason George W. Bush got elected is because that man doesn't know any words longer than 3 syllables - and therefore was able to be understood by the masses. 

In a physical sense, the flowery bullshit written by literary snobs is like a Rube Goldberg machine.

I must add one more thing.  Legal statues / laws are typically written in a way in which no average person could understand them.  That is intentional.  I have found that most lawyers and judges don't understand the laws that are the "tools" of their trade.  They want to obfuscate their meanings.. so that they can interpret them however they want.  This is quite convenient for crooked judges.  I have one excellent personal example of that.  Many years ago, I worked as an engineer for a company which was paying all it's employees as "contract labor" instead of as "employees".  Paying employees as contractors instead of as employees allows the employer to get away without paying taxes, not giving benefits, and not giving protections.  There is a list of conditions which determine whether a worker is an employee or a contractor.  In the case of this company, every condition was that of an employee.  There is a federal law which states that if a worker is wrongfully paid as being a contractor instead of as an employee, then not only is that worker not liable for paying the taxes, but that worker gets a 15% reward of all the taxes that were recovered from the employer as a result of an investigation.  Well.. I should have been given an award of $25,000.  I acquired the payroll records totaling over $1 million from that company to it's workers.  I did all the work for them.   However, that crooked judge screwed me.  The company I worked for did not even bother to show up for the trial.  They ADMITTED that their workers were being paid as contractors when they were in fact employees.. and they have continued to do so to this DAY (except that the office that used to be 15 workers is now just 2 people - the owner and the office manager).  The judge not only did not give me any reward, he also forced me to pay the taxes that my employer did not!   There is no interpretation of the law to allow that.  It was the federal judge who handles all federal tax disputes of that type.. and he was a complete FRAUD.   What that judge did to me is like being charged with running a red light, when you have 10 witnesses and video showing that the light was green when you passed it, and yet the judge still charges you with running a red light because the cop said so! 

My point being.. bullshit artists purposefully use obfuscation to avoid the truth and get whatever fraudulent conclusions they desire.  My oldest brother is a grand master bullshit artist, so I know all the tricks these people use.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2018, 02:55:28 am »

The over seas correspondents said in Swedish reviews about the book that it would be easy to read, but really it isn't. Yes, there is a lot of words that someone who is not native in English wouldn't knew about, but most of the time you can take a wild guess and make an assumption of what context the word is in. What is so much harder is that the author Michael Wolff is constantly name dropping people I have never heard about like I am supposed to know who it is. I can get that journalists who works in this field has better knowledge, but they should probably know that most people here never heard about most of the people mentioned.
I googled them, they have not been mentioned in any of the local media. So if you're not an american it is not a book that is easy to read, cause you don't know who they are talking about. If the book would be translated (I think it won't be though) it will need an editor that makes an localization of the book and makes notes on every side of the book about who is whom.
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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 02:00:21 pm »

The over seas correspondents said in Swedish reviews about the book that it would be easy to read, but really it isn't. Yes, there is a lot of words that someone who is not native in English wouldn't knew about, but most of the time you can take a wild guess and make an assumption of what context the word is in. What is so much harder is that the author Michael Wolff is constantly name dropping people I have never heard about like I am supposed to know who it is. I can get that journalists who works in this field has better knowledge, but they should probably know that most people here never heard about most of the people mentioned.
I googled them, they have not been mentioned in any of the local media. So if you're not an american it is not a book that is easy to read, cause you don't know who they are talking about. If the book would be translated (I think it won't be though) it will need an editor that makes an localization of the book and makes notes on every side of the book about who is whom.

Trust me, you aren't missing anything.   That Michael Wolff book turned out to be a nothing.  It was promoted as being the tool to end Trump's presidency.  Instead, it turned out to be nothing more than something to line one's bird cage with.

It reminds me of "Old English".  Find a book in Old English.. the words are English, but are used in a much different way with different meanings.. so that it's almost impossible to understand.  

Michael Wolff is just a pompous slug that nobody will ever hear from again.  
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2018, 10:27:41 pm »

I continue to be surprised at how illiterate American's are. I remember I had to look up "Borscht Belt" but in Wikipedia, not a dictionary, and I might have automatically skipped a very small number of unfamiliar words where the meaning was obvious from the context and auto-corrected any spelling errors (though I noticed Mediation where Meditation was obviously intended), but I had absolutely no problem reading this book.

Of course it is well established that people dominated by evolutionary behavioural patterns, with lower intelligence, literacy and vocabulary and with a learning capacity that diminishes very rapidly with age tend to be political conservatives. I expect that the main target audience of the book (political progressives) will have no difficulty reading it.

I read that the book is going to be filmed as a television series. They need to be quick because I doubt that the Trumpanzee will be around for long enough for it to be relevant.
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2018, 03:37:11 am »

I continue to be surprised at how illiterate American's are. I remember I had to look up "Borscht Belt" but in Wikipedia, not a dictionary, and I might have automatically skipped a very small number of unfamiliar words where the meaning was obvious from the context and auto-corrected any spelling errors (though I noticed Mediation where Meditation was obviously intended), but I had absolutely no problem reading this book.

Of course it is well established that people dominated by evolutionary behavioural patterns, with lower intelligence, literacy and vocabulary and with a learning capacity that diminishes very rapidly with age tend to be political conservatives. I expect that the main target audience of the book (political progressives) will have no difficulty reading it.

I read that the book is going to be filmed as a television series. They need to be quick because I doubt that the Trumpanzee will be around for long enough for it to be relevant.

You are incredibly delusional.

Trump will be around for a long time.  The success of that book is based upon the pre-sales.  Once people start reading that pile of crap, the sales will plummet.  There is something else to consider.  One cannot profit from the proceeds of a crime.  If Trump were to file charges of defamation, libel, slander against Wolff.. then Wolff would not make a penny off that book.
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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2018, 10:47:29 pm »

Trump's lawyers already tried to get the publishers to withdraw the book, but their legal threats were rejected because they failed to point out a single error. I'm sure the publishers will be ecstatic of Trump takes legal action. It will clearly fail and the publicity will result in even more book sales.
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2018, 01:05:14 am »

Trump's lawyers already tried to get the publishers to withdraw the book, but their legal threats were rejected because they failed to point out a single error. I'm sure the publishers will be ecstatic of Trump takes legal action. It will clearly fail and the publicity will result in even more book sales.

You must sniff glue.
Even the AUTHOR admits IN THE BOOK that it is loaded with several different versions of things.. including many contradictions.. and none of it can be corroborated.   No errors? 

Frankly, if that book had been silenced, people would assume that there was something significant in it.  Now that it has been released, we know it was all just a ruse to sell books.  What a load of manure.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2018, 06:36:32 am »

Yes lots of people say the book is full of lies, errors, inconsistencies and fabrications. Interestingly none of them (including you) ever point to a specific example.
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