Is being a gay person really special? I don’t think so.
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« on: January 08, 2018, 02:28:33 pm »

that’s only my thoughts no offended to anyone and anything.

This forum is my only homosexual related forum, I have been here for years, I read lots of posts, there’s a strange and contradictory attitude for being gay. they said they are special to straights and the need equal rights. that sounds ridiculous, you separated yourself from folks ask for rights. I don’t think that’s really equality. there are many homosexual peoples in the world that’s the result of evolution. The only difference between gay and straight is fuck an ass or a pussy. there’s not big difference anymore. The final equality of sexual orientation is no special for all of orientations. no guilty or weaknesses for orientation.

I’m a gay but I don’t proud of it, just like no straight will announce there proud of sexual orientation.

My thoughts “no special, common rights”
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 05:42:34 am »

My guess is you are closeted and not open to hardly anyone.  Will never experience the freedom to marry who you choose and live the way you want. Might even adhere to some religious doctrine that sees's your behavior as abnormal and possibly worthy of a death penalty.
All people should be able to live their life as they see fit and that life should not be excluded from anything by laws from bigoted and hateful people based on some religious text that you don't adhere to.
So are gay people special? No, just different.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2018, 03:59:53 am »

Will never experience the freedom to marry who you choose and live the way you want.

no, I think I own the life I wanted. Just like my brother said it’s meaningless for us living together or having sex, we have done it for our curiosity, that’s enough. There are more things in the future waiting for us, let’s keep together as brothers. Even if he can have baby for me, I won’t marry him, We are crossness, we will quarrel in a week and scuffle in a month. We are males. I need a gentle woman to care my silly daily life. I think I’m the most common gay person who lives in the world with large populations. I mean like most of the straight people, gay is just small difference in sexual hobby. so no more special. there are male and female slut in our world, they will get their ‘prize’.

Still can’t understand why open relationship is still popular in gay couples
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 06:03:26 am »

that’s only my thoughts no offended to anyone and anything.

This forum is my only homosexual related forum, I have been here for years, I read lots of posts, there’s a strange and contradictory attitude for being gay. they said they are special to straights and the need equal rights. that sounds ridiculous, you separated yourself from folks ask for rights. I don’t think that’s really equality. there are many homosexual peoples in the world that’s the result of evolution. The only difference between gay and straight is fuck an ass or a pussy. there’s not big difference anymore. The final equality of sexual orientation is no special for all of orientations. no guilty or weaknesses for orientation.

I’m a gay but I don’t proud of it, just like no straight will announce there proud of sexual orientation.

My thoughts “no special, common rights”

As a community we separated ourselves to protect ourselves and surround ourselves by understanding people without having the never ending parade of ugly coming at you from a whole new kind of stupid. Have you ever been called a Fag, assumed to be a paedo because you like men or even beaten up? I have, I ended up in hospital for 13 weeks for being gay. You think we don't need equal rights? Basically you want us to go back to these dark times. (And news flash, they are not over, not fully.). Some Arabic countries the penalty for being gay is still death.

We are not saying we are Special little snowflakes. We are proud of where we have come from and the hardships we and those before us had to endure. We are not asking to be special, we are asking to be seen as equal and not penalized based on who we love.

I have fought for gay rights in my own country, and will continue to do so until I die.  I suggest you look back at our history, we are not asking to be special we are asking for acceptance without exception. Huge difference.

I am proud to be gay, for me that is remembering the path we have taken to get to the freedoms you take for granted today.

Lets look at your country (Presuiming your flags correct)

Violence and discrimination against LGBT people in Mongolia are fairly common and often not reported to police. In 2001, a lesbian woman was raped, abducted and stabbed by two men. In 2009, an ultra-nationalist neo-Nazi group kidnapped three transgender women and sexually assaulted them. None of these crimes were reported to the police for fear of victimization. In February 2014, a gay man was sexually assaulted by a neo-Nazi group.  Following public outcry from the LGBT community and civil society organizations, the Government of Mongolia announced in May 2014 that it would consider anti-discrimination legislation to protect LGBT people.

On 3 December 2015, the Mongolian Parliament adopted a new Criminal Code that prohibits discrimination, with the protected grounds including sexual orientation, gender identity and health status. In August 2017, the LGBT Centre began training more than 100 police officers on what hate crimes are and how to properly handle them. The Criminal Code's coming into force was planned for 1 September 2016, however, the newly elected Cabinet postponed the date to 1 July 2017.

If you think this is acceptable then I will just stop talking. I think everyone has the right to live without fear and intimidation regardless of race, sexual orientation etc.
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 05:31:13 pm »

that’s only my thoughts no offended to anyone and anything.

no offence, you just make some confusion...

there isn't anything special in being gay or straight...

except the fact that if you are gay some people want to kill you or to shame you... while for being straight that almost never happens...

when was the last time a son has been thrown out of home by parents... for being heterosexual ?

also being proud doesn't mean claiming to be special, but means claiming you will not accept to be ashamed of who you are.

as a straight male who doesn't hide the fact he has a girlfriend, then a proud gay will not hide the fact he has a boyfriend...

i am not saying a proud gay has to tell everyone he has a boyfriend... but when they ask you: will you arrive alone ? you will say no, with Paul
and when they will ask you... who is this Paul ? you will say, he is my boyfriend.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2018, 10:16:24 pm »

kenjysn1, if you saw people beating up a gay person, would you try to stop it? Or would you just say, its none of my business. Or would you join in on the beating to push suspicion off of you?
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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2018, 04:46:03 am »

definitely being gay is special
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2018, 04:23:50 pm »

Will never experience the freedom to marry who you choose and live the way you want.

no, I think I own the life I wanted. Just like my brother said it’s meaningless for us living together or having sex, we have done it for our curiosity, that’s enough. There are more things in the future waiting for us, let’s keep together as brothers. Even if he can have baby for me, I won’t marry him, We are crossness, we will quarrel in a week and scuffle in a month. We are males. I need a gentle woman to care my silly daily life. I think I’m the most common gay person who lives in the world with large populations. I mean like most of the straight people, gay is just small difference in sexual hobby. so no more special. there are male and female slut in our world, they will get their ‘prize’.

Still can’t understand why open relationship is still popular in gay couples

I think some of the confusion could be dialect, I am not sure where the OP is from, but broken language and word choice infers english is not your first language. To say that being gay does not require special treatment, you ignore both history and current affairs. Perhaps things are quite different where you are from.

Being gay in an ideal world would not require us to have a "special" designation. We are special because for a very long time, thousands of years in fact - the rest of the world felt we needed a "special" designation. They called us Fag, Freak, Sicko, abominations of nature. We did not choose to be singled out, the "normal" people singled us out. They did this in rituals that "normal people" accepted as righteous, hazings and beatings, murders.. brutal? YES. But the general consensus was we brought that on ourselves for partaking in such lewd and unnatural behaviors. The world did not view us as "normal", that is what made gay special.

Gay people did not separate themselves from society, rather we "came together". This my friend, because there is strength and safety in numbers. The rest of mankind made us special by attempting to beat, harass and bully us out of existence. The right to move through day to day life without fear that who we love could get us beaten to death or killed was hard fought, no "normal" human had to FIGHT for that right, just as no normal person has to fight for the right to marry whom they choose. So before you say that being gay is not special, try and remember who singled us out as special, and how that happened.

We are still fighting social stigma, in some ways even more now. The very term GAY makes even gay men uncomfortable these days - and the term "gender fluid" is the punch phrase of the new millennium. Years of gay men being stereotyped and openly mocked in popular mediums has driven a "shame" into the word gay that can't be processed out. The "new age" gay men feel they are too "manly" to wear that moniker, because it evokes images of "flaming queens"  and "swishy" effeminate, lisping, limp wristed girly men.  They want desperately to move through their lives without "labels", because such imagery makes them uncomfortable, they are not "that" way and don't want to be viewed "that" way.

What is perhaps even more surprising, is the growth of an even larger "subgroup" of men so traumatized by the perceived stigma and sacrifices that being labeled "gay" implies, they are choosing to do exactly what you suggest in your first post. For all intents and purposes, rather than face the world as a gay man, they are moving forward in "straight" relationships, and hooking up with men on the side. In effect moving back into the closet. They will tell you they are not gay, (See, I have my woman, token proof I am "normal".) they just have sex with men, and describe it as if they are going off to play cards with the boys. Think that is exaggerated? LMAO! More than half of gay porn is filled with these men right now. Self hating to the point they would sooner live a lie than be "labeled", besides, then they get  to have their cake and eat it too. For this segment, I have to wonder what the future will bring. Ha, pretty much what you described as the "conclusion" you and your brother came to huh. Sadly for that segment of the gay population (yourself included should you decide to go with your brother's plan) it never really works out. Doubt me? Find Curtis from Sean Cody and ask him.

Well happily not everyone is content living a half life, and despite what made us special to begin with, we are now special because we choose to be. What those boys don't see is that gay men represent some of the highest aspirations of mankind. We are a highly educated segment, largely successful, and we bring a sense of community and self improvement wherever we go. That's right, I will say it - you will NEVER see a gay ghetto. We have fought in wars along side our brothers, as a segment of the population our philanthropic work is everywhere, so many things that gay men are that people never discuss mainly because we have never asked for "special" recognition for any of it. It is who we are.   

You brought your honest thoughts here, I can respect that - trust me when I tell you gay men have tried to live as you described since the beginning of time. I am more concerned for the woman you are going to try and fool, and how she is going to feel 5 or 10 years down the road when you realize you can't live that charade any more. This is someone's LIFE you are messing with here, I hope you are at least man enough to be open about the fact you sleep with men, at least then she can make an informed decision. It all sounds pretty easy in theory, I think you are going to find in practice, not so much. But hey, good luck with that.

Did I just read that right, are you fucking your bother?  Blinking

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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2018, 01:56:17 am »

A mother said to her child "You're special", a friend or somebody else would say the same thing to you or me in a given time of our lives. But if we're all labeled as such, there is nobody truly special.
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