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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2019, 12:44:00 pm »

yeah no all that together still doesnt compare to the alt-right motivated mass shootings.

also, you people even tried to have a little armed revolution with the occupation of the malheur national wildlife refuge and that guy joe biggs wants people to date rape and punch trans people. we also have gavin mcinnes from the proud gays that thinks theres not enough violennce these days. don't really hear that kind of rhetoric from the left. and also from the proud gays we have maxwell hare and john kinsman who both have been convicted for assault and attempted riot, there would probably be at least 8 more convicted proud gays if the victims had cooperated with the prosecution.

PULSE night club was shot up by a fag hating muslim.    San Bernadino, I believe it was, was done by another muslim.  

Virginia Tech was done by an Asian guy, as were a few others.

Everyone knows about Dylann Roof, shooting up that black church.  The MSM was virtually silent on Emanual Samson shooting up that white church.  Why is that?   Agenda driven, maybe?!  

It was a Bernie supporter who shot up the Republican practice session for the Congressional baseball practice.

Dayton Ohio was done by a supporter of Elizabeth Warren.  

And again, you ignore that a liberal college professor smashed at least 11 people over the head with his bike lock.  

If you want to talk about the car incident at Charlottesville, then let's talk about the group of your buddies wandering around with guys, threatening to shoot people they didn't like.   This was lead by another college professor.  

We had the professor with the long neck and stupid hair who joyfully tweeted out that it made him happy that he was teaching future dead cops.   He was even on Tucker Carlson's show.  About a year later, he's part of the group that went to Tucker's house while he was on air and tried to force the front door open and made death threats using bullhorns.

OR, how SMugglyPuff attacked an elderly couple because he/she thought they might support something he/she might not like.  I say "he/she" because he/she claims to be a trans man, but when she went to court for the attack, he became a she to get the lighter sentence under the gender sentencing gap.

OR, the guy who was beaten unconscious and your buddies kept kicking him while he was on the group unable to defend himself.    He turned out to be a liberal, but who cares.  

OR setting occupied buildings on fire as we saw at Berkley.  Who cares that someone could have died.  Fuck them, the liberals thought the building needed to be set on fire because of speech they might not like.

OR pulling the fire alarm to prevent a lecture/discussion on men's specific physical health issues, a week after they had the same sort of thing about women's specific health issues.   This was where Chanty Binx became super famous.

OR having a near riot to prevent a male specific mental health issues lecture/discussion,  just a week after having the same thing for women specific mental health issues.  

OR MoldyLocks brought empty wine bottles to a protest to smash people over the head with.  She ended up getting punched in the face after she tried to hit a guy over the head with a bottle, but still.

You people did over $25k of damage to a frat house because of lies by Jackie and that scummy SJW narrative driven "journalist" at UVA.   When it was over, you scum bags didn't care that you did the damage to innocent people.

You people are so scummy that you will do direct harm to real trans people, such as Blair White, Skylar and countless others, so your trans trenders and gender freaks can feel special.   Elliot Cope is a prime example.  She's a girl, who's a trans boy, who identifies as a CIS girl.  Dakota is another example.  He calls himself a "gender terrorist".   He's a freak that likes to hang what looks like used tampons from his beard and wear makeup.  


Also, why do you and your ilk refuse to count the 72 people shot over 2018 Memorial Day weekend in 3 separate incidents by blacks, in Chicago?! That's not counting the 17 other shootings that weekend in Chicago.   There's been countless of these types of shootings, but you guys always refuse to count them because they don't suit your agenda.
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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2019, 03:56:43 pm »

LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.   

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2019, 04:11:03 pm »

oh noooooo whats way more funny is that you think "proud gays" is a slur. i was only wanting to put the boys in a peer-friendly context.

and absolutely, alt-right media lies often and frequently. as for rachel maddows, her thing is taking controversial facts (legal documents, emails, transcripts etc) and hypothesize what the mean or why they exist. its not really lying as far as i know, but yes its definitely a form of propaganda. and lets not be naive here, all ideologically based media (alt-right media not excluded) perform propaganda.

LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.   


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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2019, 05:54:39 pm »

Sure, that was your intent.  I call BS.   "Peer friendly context" whatever.

Mueller's report showed she lied for 2 years and she's still carrying on with the same lies.

Chris Cuomo famously said that it was illegal for us to read the leaked documents and that we could only know what they said from legit news journos like him.   That was and is a total fucking lie.

Any news you don't like is "alt-right".   That's how you people are.



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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2019, 06:19:46 pm »

ok since we are making baseless assumtions about eachother: you people are as susceptible to fake news and lies as you are willing to make baseless assumtions of other people. and i mean that as super susceptible and very willing.

and even if rachel maddows has been dishonest, thats just one media personality. doesnt really compare to all the alt right media that lies frequently and often.

Sure, that was your intent.  I call BS.   "Peer friendly context" whatever.

Mueller's report showed she lied for 2 years and she's still carrying on with the same lies.

Chris Cuomo famously said that it was illegal for us to read the leaked documents and that we could only know what they said from legit news journos like him.   That was and is a total fucking lie.

Any news you don't like is "alt-right".   That's how you people are.




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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2019, 08:10:16 pm »

Ok, you are just wasting my time now.   

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2019, 08:21:32 pm »

but like racism is the definition of making baseless assumptions of other people...

Ok, you are just wasting my time now.   


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« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2019, 08:38:50 pm »

anyway, the point i was trying to make with "you people tried to have a little armed revolution with the occupation of the malheur national wildlife refuge and that guy joe biggs wants people to date rape and punch trans people. we also have gavin mcinnes from the proud gays that thinks theres not enough violennce these days. don't really hear that kind of rhetoric from the left. and also from the proud gays we have maxwell hare and john kinsman who both have been convicted for assault and attempted riot, there would probably be at least 8 more convicted proud gays if the victims had cooperated with the prosecution." is that it seems that the alt right and neo nazis are for more attracted to violence than the left. not sure what the lying alt right media has spun for this but im sure its colorful lies, if they even acknowledge these facts at all.........

LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.   


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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2019, 07:38:28 am »

Why do you insist on calling the Proud Boys the "proud gays"?!   

I never heard that the Malheur Wildlife Refuge incident was all about being pro date rape and beating trans people. 

The proud boys came about as a response due to the violence from antifa.   Check your timeline. 

Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow and countless others from the left defended the violence by antifa.  So that's a lie.   

So you have 2 people who were convicted of violence, from the right.  I wonder how that compared to your side.   

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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2019, 07:59:17 am »

when you say "incident" do you mean the armed occupation? funny way to refer to an extreme measure of alt right madness. date raping and beating trans people comes from joe biggs, dont think he was involved with the armed occupation other than probably spreading lies and fake news about it at his job at infowars.

the proud gays might have a weak cover story of why human trash such as themselves have organized into a pro-violence organisation. however, together with the mass shootings and that guy who drove his car into a crowd and killed a woman are just a few specific examples of how much the at right loves violence.

uhm do you have a source for chris cuomo, don lemon, rachel maddow defending the violence by antifa? sorry but this seems like another alt right lie.

Why do you insist on calling the Proud Boys the "proud gays"?!   

I never heard that the Malheur Wildlife Refuge incident was all about being pro date rape and beating trans people. 

The proud boys came about as a response due to the violence from antifa.   Check your timeline. 

Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow and countless others from the left defended the violence by antifa.  So that's a lie.   

So you have 2 people who were convicted of violence, from the right.  I wonder how that compared to your side.   


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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2019, 08:21:08 am »

Since you refuse to have an honest discussion, in these various threads, I'm done with you. 
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2019, 04:05:38 pm »

dont blame me for your own inability to meet my arguments.

Since you refuse to have an honest discussion, in these various threads, I'm done with you.  

in case you feel better soon and feel you can actually handle this debate, this is what we have been talking about:

when you say "incident" do you mean the armed occupation? funny way to refer to an extreme measure of alt right madness. date raping and beating trans people comes from joe biggs, dont think he was involved with the armed occupation other than probably spreading lies and fake news about it at his job at infowars.

the proud gays might have a weak cover story of why human trash such as themselves have organized into a pro-violence organisation. however, together with the mass shootings and that guy who drove his car into a crowd and killed a woman are just a few specific examples of how much the at right loves violence.

uhm do you have a source for chris cuomo, don lemon, rachel maddow defending the violence by antifa? sorry but this seems like another alt right lie.

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    Why do you insist on calling the Proud Boys the "proud gays"?!  

    I never heard that the Malheur Wildlife Refuge incident was all about being pro date rape and beating trans people.

    The proud boys came about as a response due to the violence from antifa.   Check your timeline.

    Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow and countless others from the left defended the violence by antifa.  So that's a lie.  

    So you have 2 people who were convicted of violence, from the right.  I wonder how that compared to your side.  


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Why do you insist on calling the Proud Boys the "proud gays"?!  

I never heard that the Malheur Wildlife Refuge incident was all about being pro date rape and beating trans people.

The proud boys came about as a response due to the violence from antifa.   Check your timeline.

Chris Cuomo, Don Lemon, Rachel Maddow and countless others from the left defended the violence by antifa.  So that's a lie.  

So you have 2 people who were convicted of violence, from the right.  I wonder how that compared to your side.  

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anyway, the point i was trying to make with "you people tried to have a little armed revolution with the occupation of the malheur national wildlife refuge and that guy joe biggs wants people to date rape and punch trans people. we also have gavin mcinnes from the proud gays that thinks theres not enough violennce these days. don't really hear that kind of rhetoric from the left. and also from the proud gays we have maxwell hare and john kinsman who both have been convicted for assault and attempted riot, there would probably be at least 8 more convicted proud gays if the victims had cooperated with the prosecution." is that it seems that the alt right and neo nazis are for more attracted to violence than the left. not sure what the lying alt right media has spun for this but im sure its colorful lies, if they even acknowledge these facts at all.........

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    LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

    I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.  


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but like racism is the definition of making baseless assumptions of other people...

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    Ok, you are just wasting my time now.  


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Ok, you are just wasting my time now.  

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ok since we are making baseless assumtions about eachother: you people are as susceptible to fake news and lies as you are willing to make baseless assumtions of other people. and i mean that as super susceptible and very willing.

and even if rachel maddows has been dishonest, thats just one media personality. doesnt really compare to all the alt right media that lies frequently and often.

Quote from: : raphjd on September 15, 2019, 05:54:39 pm

    Sure, that was your intent.  I call BS.   "Peer friendly context" whatever.

    Mueller's report showed she lied for 2 years and she's still carrying on with the same lies.

    Chris Cuomo famously said that it was illegal for us to read the leaked documents and that we could only know what they said from legit news journos like him.   That was and is a total fucking lie.

    Any news you don't like is "alt-right".   That's how you people are.




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Sure, that was your intent.  I call BS.   "Peer friendly context" whatever.

Mueller's report showed she lied for 2 years and she's still carrying on with the same lies.

Chris Cuomo famously said that it was illegal for us to read the leaked documents and that we could only know what they said from legit news journos like him.   That was and is a total fucking lie.

Any news you don't like is "alt-right".   That's how you people are.



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oh noooooo whats way more funny is that you think "proud gays" is a slur. i was only wanting to put the boys in a peer-friendly context.

and absolutely, alt-right media lies often and frequently. as for rachel maddows, her thing is taking controversial facts (legal documents, emails, transcripts etc) and hypothesize what the mean or why they exist. its not really lying as far as i know, but yes its definitely a form of propaganda. and lets not be naive here, all ideologically based media (alt-right media not excluded) perform propaganda.

Quote from: : raphjd on September 15, 2019, 03:56:43 pm

    LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

    I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.  


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LOL, gotta love your use of "Proud Gays" when talking about the Proud Boys.   Quite homophobic of you, but you liberals love to use slurs against everyone you don't like.

I also love you claims that right wing media lies, even though we have proof that Rachel Maddow lied about everything over the last 2 years, same with CNN.     Even after the Mueller report, you people are still claiming shit that never happened.  

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yeah no all that together still doesnt compare to the alt-right motivated mass shootings.

also, you people even tried to have a little armed revolution with the occupation of the malheur national wildlife refuge and that guy joe biggs wants people to date rape and punch trans people. we also have gavin mcinnes from the proud gays that thinks theres not enough violennce these days. don't really hear that kind of rhetoric from the left. and also from the proud gays we have maxwell hare and john kinsman who both have been convicted for assault and attempted riot, there would probably be at least 8 more convicted proud gays if the victims had cooperated with the prosecution.
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« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2019, 07:44:34 am »

LOL, you are so fucked in the head. 

You ignore the violence by your side, but get butt hurt because I call something an "incident". 

You have a pathologic need to call a group by the wrong name as if calling them "gay" is an insult. 

You talk about mass shootings but claim that all of them are by the "alt-right" when that is a total lie.   Your liberal buddies have killed plenty.   I already listed some.   Most of the mass shootings had nothing to do with liberal or conservative, but you are such a liar that you will never admit that.   

Still ignoring the violence by your side.  You call the Proud Boys "human trash" but you have been totally silent about Antifa.   That is typical of you losers.   

If you demand proof from me, that you could look up for yourself, then you must provide proof of every one of your claims.   Since you made the demand, its up to you to go first.
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« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2019, 08:04:05 am »

oh no mr police, i believe calling someone "fucked in the head" is against the forum rules, no? are ya gonna ban yerself?  Blinking

my whole point is that alt right and neo nazis are far more attracted to violence. alt right motivated mass shootings and the human trash proud gays are just two example. hmm yeah i should have been more specific, most recent school shootings are carried out by alt right and neo nazis.

nah i didnt expect youd provide a source for your alt right lies and fake news. i wouldnt expect there to be a source at all except maybe some lying human trash at infowars.

LOL, you are so fucked in the head. 

You ignore the violence by your side, but get butt hurt because I call something an "incident". 

You have a pathologic need to call a group by the wrong name as if calling them "gay" is an insult. 

You talk about mass shootings but claim that all of them are by the "alt-right" when that is a total lie.   Your liberal buddies have killed plenty.   I already listed some.   Most of the mass shootings had nothing to do with liberal or conservative, but you are such a liar that you will never admit that.   

Still ignoring the violence by your side.  You call the Proud Boys "human trash" but you have been totally silent about Antifa.   That is typical of you losers.   

If you demand proof from me, that you could look up for yourself, then you must provide proof of every one of your claims.   Since you made the demand, its up to you to go first.
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« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2019, 10:39:13 am »

You want to whine about me saying you are "fucked in the head", but you have called me names.  HMMMM.

LOL, you still keep yammering on about your enemies being evil, while totally ignoring the violence from your side.    Most school shootings are due to excessive bullying.   If you had a brain, you'd know that.   

So you are saying you are a hypocrite.  You make demands of me but refuse to also follow that same rule.   You remind me of AOC saying we need to stop eating meat and stop using plastic straws, then shes photoed eating a hamburger and her drink has a plastic straw. 

I guess you must be full of self-hatred that you keep calling the Proud Boys the "Proud Gays" in order to demonize them.   

BTW, try googling;   Chris Cuomo defends antifa    or is that too complicated for you?
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« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2019, 05:06:55 pm »

awww i mean i like that you acknowledge that racists and alt right are as bad as fucked in the head because i believe racists and lat right peeps and neo nazis are quite fucked in the head. so were even i guess?

and its a problem with the radicalisation of alt right people and neo nazis in secluded online communities that it can go so far that they decide to shoot up schools.the bullying is probably why they look for some sense of community and belinging, even if its human trash neo nazis and fucked in the head alt right people.

oh man if only theyd call themselves the proud gays. that would be the opposite of demonizing them, more like humanizing them. right now theyre just 100% human trash.

you lied to me, not suprised by a person from the alt right lying mind you, but you said "chris cuomo, don lemon, rachel maddow defending the violence by antifa" and now you only point me in the direction of cuomo defending antifa. defending antifa is not thesame as defending violence by antifa or the proud gays. e.g. im not saying that the proud gays should be illegal but their violence should be (and is) illegal and ill never defend that or other violence. so like, disappointed but not surprised that you couldnt do better.

You want to whine about me saying you are "fucked in the head", but you have called me names.  HMMMM.

LOL, you still keep yammering on about your enemies being evil, while totally ignoring the violence from your side.    Most school shootings are due to excessive bullying.   If you had a brain, you'd know that.   

So you are saying you are a hypocrite.  You make demands of me but refuse to also follow that same rule.   You remind me of AOC saying we need to stop eating meat and stop using plastic straws, then shes photoed eating a hamburger and her drink has a plastic straw. 

I guess you must be full of self-hatred that you keep calling the Proud Boys the "Proud Gays" in order to demonize them.   

BTW, try googling;   Chris Cuomo defends antifa    or is that too complicated for you?
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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2019, 05:03:11 pm »

"Fascism, political ideology and mass movement that dominated many parts of central, southern, and eastern Europe between 1919 and 1945 and that also had adherents in western Europe, the United States, South Africa, Japan, Latin America, and the Middle East. [...] Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from one another, they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation. At the end of World War II, the major European fascist parties were broken up, and in some countries (such as Italy and West Germany) they were officially banned. Beginning in the late 1940s, however, many fascist-oriented parties and movements were founded in Europe as well as in Latin America and South Africa. Although some European “neofascist” groups attracted large followings, especially in Italy and France, none were as influential as the major fascist parties of the interwar period."

https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism

I would prefer this definition of facism, by the way I don't understand why you need to write "lefties" it's simplistic. Liberalism was supposed to be based on freedom and individual recognition, it was supposed to be a good system until capitalism and corruption interfered with it. For exemple in France we are a proto democracy, an oligarchy now. Whether you are from the left or right wing, we need sometimes to think about not being caught by ideology. I contempt Trumps ideology, denying global warming and the 6th mass extinction, reverse racism while in fact white people are still priviledged and non white people are stigmatized, discriminated, struggling against racism, xenophobia and they will have to do three times the effort to get recognized unlike a white heterosexual male. That's fact and we need to not get stuck in some ideologies that led the world to terrible massacre. Trumps is the purest definition of a facist, he has proven it hundred of times and now he might be caught up with justice soon or after being one of the worst president of the US.

By the way I just admire the energy you take by making live this section. Why is that so important for you ?
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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2019, 07:17:39 am »

You prefer that definition because it suits your agenda.   

You ignore that fascists use violence to get their way.   We see antifa do this.  The bike lockk professor smashed at least 11 people over the head with his bike lock.  They set an occupied building on fire, as we saw at Berkely.   There's the guy that has a habit of trying to push women in front of moving buses and kicking women because they are anti abortion.  There are countless examples of violence by the left. 

Liberalism, in the modern era, has nothing to do with freedom and individual recognition, whatever that is supposed to mean.  Modern liberalism is nothing more than idiots that think they can do whatever they want, to whomever they want, because they were offended.

The more I see of antifa and lefties, the more I support "stand your ground" laws. 

You crack me up with your comments about ideology, then you spew your leftie ideology.   


I view modern liberalism as a cancer. 


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You prefer that definition because it suits your agenda.  

You ignore that fascists use violence to get their way.   We see antifa do this.  The bike lockk professor smashed at least 11 people over the head with his bike lock.  They set an occupied building on fire, as we saw at Berkely.   There's the guy that has a habit of trying to push women in front of moving buses and kicking women because they are anti abortion.  There are countless examples of violence by the left.  

Liberalism, in the modern era, has nothing to do with freedom and individual recognition, whatever that is supposed to mean.  Modern liberalism is nothing more than idiots that think they can do whatever they want, to whomever they want, because they were offended.

The more I see of antifa and lefties, the more I support "stand your ground" laws.  

You crack me up with your comments about ideology, then you spew your leftie ideology.  


I view modern liberalism as a cancer.  





Why would you need to do virulent statement to argue ? The main problem here is hatred, you have your own ideology which I probably ignore the subtlety because I do not know you. However, whatever political party you do support, nationalism is not patriotism and the men like Trumps are not getting caught by a conspiration but caught because he never cared about the laws and it's own people plus he is a racist and a xenophobe. So unless you are which I hope this is untrue, don't shape your ideology as it's convenient for you, bashing everyone who disagree with you or calling them "leftie". That's not because you are a high moderator, administrator or even been the owner of this website that you are allowed to act in such a way and being mean to every people who are legitimate to criticize your statements. This is the beauty of democracy which many government do not respect anymore. You have a voice, I have one, let's respect each other please.
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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2019, 04:50:42 pm »

I remember a college professor of mine saying that you can't use logic in discussion with someone who doesn't use logic to form their own viewpoint. 

If that's true (which I believe is the case), this thread has exhausted itself.  It's time to move along, folks...there's nothing to see here.
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