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« on: September 10, 2018, 01:39:01 am »

Hello everyone, many of you don't even know who I am and that's okay, I barely made any posts lately, let alone a new thread, but this is something that's been bothering me for a while and I need to discuss this.

Okay so, I started watching porn when I was a kid. Now, don't get it twisted, it actually was straight porn back then and it was an accident, I didn't even know what the fuck I was watching back then lel. Anyway, only during my teenager days (I'm 24 now) I started to discover the world of gay porn and that was also when I was trying to figure out who I really was, but I digress. Porn was different back then, social media wasn't as big as it is today and porn is accessible pretty much everywhere now, but the real reason that I opened this thread is this: I seem to get bored of watching gay porn quite often lately.

Now, I believe there's nothing wrong with watching porn at all even if you have a normal sex life, porn is meant to be an art form which focus is to entertain those who watch, but lately I think the "entertainment" aspect is almost zero for me. Personally speaking I prefer condom scenes, but I don't mind a bareback scene every once in a while, however we all know how the bareback scene/studios have increased so much over these past few years and more often than not these scene are extremely boring to me. Now, even condom scenes can get boring, the point I'm trying to make is that porn lacks that passion, that feeling of watching two guys who are into it, everything seems bland to me. Doesn't help that I also find some of the actors really bland. I'm really into muscle guys, or at least athletic dudes that don't look like broomsticks, I wanna see the meat, I ain't got time for bones, but hey, that's me. Some people are into the twink category, that's okay, but nobody likes bones and I'm seeing way too many of them lately. I also don't like feminine boys that pretend to be macho guys, that just ain't working, forcing someone in a role that doesn't belong to them is always wrong.

So I now ask you, do you share the same thoughts? Let's discuss. And apologize for any spelling errors, it's 1:40 AM over here  Grin

EDIT: And because of that, I may have opened this in the wrong section, can someone move this to the right place please? Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2018, 11:28:35 pm »

I think most of gay porn has become just a series of cookie cutter scenes, it is a direct result of the very thing that once made them a huge success coming back to bite them in the ass. All of these companies flooded the tube sites to grab those add dollars, in so doing they created a situation that made in nearly impossible to control their own losses. Another thing that has taken a bite out of their business, cam sites. Given the drop in compensation a lot of these models can make just as much sitting at home on their computers. So, like anything else when the money falls, so does the quality.

It has also caused a SHARP decline in the level of "talent". At the top of it's curve, hot models were raining from the sky, waiting in que to go ass up for that paycheck. That money isn't there any more and neither are the models. Yet studios are scrambling to turn out double the scenes by creating "spin off" sites, where all the same models do all the same mattress maneuvers on a different set. Like any other industry in history, eventually the weak will either sell out to companies like Mind Geek, or just fold.

I don't see porn going away, but if they don't find a way to make it lucrative again you are going to continue to see the quality fall. Personally I would sooner see fewer updates with hotter models. As you pointed out it is supposed to represent fantasy, my fantasy doesn't include guys I wouldn't hit the brakes for in a club.

Broke Straight Boys is a prime example of a site that has just lost any semblance of it's once great self. The guys they have had on it for the past year are just getting less and less appealing, compared to it's zenith, the "Johnny Forza, Adam Baer, Vadim Black" days, it is almost unrecognizable, and the term "Straight Boys" is laughable.

I don't know what the next great wave will be in adult entertainment, but the current state is pretty bleak. I have taken to watching mostly older scenes from when they guys were still gorgeous. 

 
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2018, 12:51:05 am »

Another thing that has taken a bite out of their business, cam sites. Given the drop in compensation a lot of these models can make just as much sitting at home on their computers. So, like anything else when the money falls, so does the quality.

I was going to mention this as well, but then I forgot. Yeah, cam sites are thriving now more than ever with sites such as cam4, only fans and whatnot. I believe it's because like you said, everything is too formulaic. It's always the same cycle over and over again, whereas with cam sites not only they make more money, but they also have more freedom to do whatever they want.

I don't know what the next great wave will be in adult entertainment, but the current state is pretty bleak. I have taken to watching mostly older scenes from when they guys were still gorgeous.

I find myself doing this more often lately, I try to find older movies rather than watching new content because there's just something about old porn scenes that makes me want to give up on today's standards altogether. I also have to mention that I almost watch everything on mute because their voices don't fit their overall aspect, plus it's the same crap of "AAHHH YEAH" x50 and that's a huge turn off for me, just be your fucking self and don't lie and I won't watch you on mute.
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2018, 01:47:48 am »

Is gay porn really that terrible these days?
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2018, 08:26:40 am »

Is gay porn really that terrible these days?

Yes. Look at virtually any site, then scroll back 2 years and tell me what jumps out at you. Granted some sites are more drastic than others, mainly because sites like "Men" have pretty much held onto all the same talent. Christ you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a scene Diego Sans is in, same goes for Will Braun (who I still love), but there are some tragic changes in sites like BSB, CF and SC. Active Duty is hangin on by Quentin Gainz last pubic hair, and the list goes on.

In the effort to try and create some "burn fade", they have tried every trick in the book. CF took to re-posting old scenes on the regular, as if porn needed "throw back Thursdays", but what they are really aiming at is off shore business that may not be as well studied an the site's history.  Sean Cody has taken to "gasp" using actual gay men. The horror. That of course would be a non issue if they didn't look like they got snatched off the floor of Walmart.

Then you have sites like Lucas, who has also managed to hold tight on his talent, but really guys - how many times can you watch the same group of guys fucking in rotation? The most creative site in gay porn right now is Guys in Sweatpants, Austin, being the insanely horned up creature that he is, still has his hand on the pulse of what's hot. He does not turn out multiple updates a week, but what he does turn out is quality.

So there you have it. I am sure there are "dissenting" opinions, everyone has a different "id" but if you do what I said I am sure you will see what I mean. At BSB, I had to go back 25 pages to find anything that looked hot. That put me right around 2016, late 2015. To be honest even those scenes were weak and inconsistent, but that was the first "sight" of something that looked like porn I might have paid for.

While you are looking, dig up "Connor nails Ethan" originally ran in 2010, re-released 2015, for obvious reasons. They haven't had a scene that hot in 4 years.  Now it is common knowledge that Connor married shortly before he "retired", but trust, watch that scene, at THAT moment in time, there was not a "straight" molecule in his body. You can feel his lust coming through the screen.

He was so fucking turned on by all the noise coming out of Ethan, and the sight of his dick slamming in and out of him! None of this looking at the walls, looking at the ceiling crap. It was like the more Ethan moaned (and that shit was for real, poor dude was getting SLAYED) the more turned on Conner got. Ethan got TURNT OUT. There was a point while Connor was rapid fucking him from behind I bet he literally forgot his damn name. Hot fucking all the way through, and at the end, Connor couldn't stop putting his dick in Ethans butt. Dude would have gone all damn night.

THAT is gay porn, THAT is chemistry coupled with two hot guys. I'd sooner watch those two fuck ten times than watch 50 couples with none of that quality fuck once. I haven't seen a scene like that since Brysen fucked Nixon at SC, and frankly even that didn't have THAT level of heat. I'm afraid all the REAL talent retired, these basic bitches they got now don't know how to fuck.
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2018, 02:27:55 pm »

My husband and i watch porn couple of times a week. Mostly interracial. Sometimes we see a full movie, with a glas of wine, or if we just likt to get horny before we jump on eatchother, we just see a clip or two.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 01:34:08 pm »

With terabytes to choose from, I become more and more selective bc I cannot afford the time to check everyone out.
Now I'm not much interested in the cock and sex parts, I'm more interested in the face and body.
Face must be masculine, smooth, fair, handsome but not scruffy or bald.
Body must be smooth, muscular, fair like an off season body builder that's meaty yet firm.
The more adjectives used, the narrower and more specific the choice AND the more shallow I am. It's all about ME and my gratification.

That's why experts say that porn is messing up the dating scene of straights and gays.
We choose partners like we choose porn. There maybe be thousands to choose from but unlike porn, not everyone is immediately available for "download" and immediate "gratification".
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2018, 03:58:09 pm »

Wow, can't imagine limiting myself like that but hey everyone gotta scratch their itch. Personally I find so many things sexy, it can be distracting at times. A guy in a great fitting pair of jeans in line at the grocery store the other day was giving me a chubby LOL! I don't think I could ever narrow it down. I do tend to go for athletic builds, not at all into heavy muscle and definitely no twinks. I describe my favorite build as "lean muscular"  but then Aspen/Solomon  back in his early days had me feelin some kinda way so I can't even REALLY narrow down body type other than to say they have to be at least athletic.

I think there are only a few things that really turn me off - overly "plucked & shaved", dude don't come at me with bitch eyebrows I just can't do it. Fake tans - another big turn off, a guy who caught some sun is hot, love a hot tan line - a pretty white tight bubble butt with the outline of a pair of board shorts.. SO sexy. Fair skinned guys with dark hair are another huge turn on - Eric Clark was perfection. Guess it really is a good thing there is such a huge selection huh.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2018, 05:00:26 am »

Whenever I'm bored of modern stuff I just browse through my collection of classic scenes and use those. Some never fail to get me off. Then eventually there will be something new that catches my eye. I don't think gay porn is in a bad state. There's just so much choice nowadays it can be overwhelming.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2018, 03:19:34 am »

You know what WOULD be epic, a remake of "God's Country", with porn models actually interested in preserving the story enough to work hard and get it right. Then, perhaps edit down the face time for "mom and dad" and expand the sex. WHY does gay porn have to be so tragically bad any time an actual story line is applied! 

I could totally see Ben Bateman and Dakota Payne in the lead roles, a little tweaking here and there to the story line, they wouldn't even have to work THAT hard at acting. You could cast pretty much the entire movie at Lucas, (they have the hottest models) and it would be raw, so none of this stupid pull out and jerk off shit.

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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2018, 02:37:37 pm »

I don't think gay porn is in a bad state. There's just so much choice nowadays it can be overwhelming.

Absolutely disagree with this. As far as I'm concerned, there's almost zero choice when it comes to today's porn because all I see are models that look borderline anorexic or guys that pretend to be macho and when they open their mouths it's a tragedy, not even mentioning the actual fuck scene. I just want a balanced guy that represents my kind of fantasy and that is slowly fading away, imo. This is also why I have to find classic videos because there were so many choices way back then. Why else a company like CF is re-releasing old scenes?

Something else that bothers the fuck outta me is the huge amount of bareback scenes. Like I said, I do like them, but that's when I find them once in a while, today is almost everything bareback and because of that, every single scene is half assed and boring as hell. Same thing goes for condom scenes too sometimes, but it just happens that bareback scenes/studios are the majority so it's more noticeable.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2018, 12:12:07 am »

Personally if they can't do an "original" story line, just forget it and get to fucking.  The parodies that Men churned out are all such laughable shit, it is actually painful to watch. Paddy as the Winter soldier donning a dime store wig..  shit like that makes me want to punch someone in the throat. I'm so over all this "Turn the straight guy" shit - the general drift is just insulting, as if any actual masculine guy has GOT to be straight. Fucking moronic. Especially when all these so called straight guys ride a dick like a boss right out of the gate. Sadly it appears there is no immediate end in sight.



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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2018, 01:23:12 am »

Is gay porn really that terrible these days?


I wouldn't be so drastic. It's still possible to find good porn clips. It's always a matter of taste and a good search  Grin

On the other side, what I think is happening is we're entering in a new phase of porn, with studios getting behind and the "real" porn being the deal now, like onlyfans stuff or livecams websites like cam4, with real-time porn on demand. There are pros and cons. I do find this new porn like onlyfans hot , but while studios are going  fullhd, 4k, we have low quality, vertical filmed on the others.       
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2018, 01:33:02 am »

See I don't understand what is really attracting people to "fans only", it is so poorly shot, and so slap dash - I am not throwing down for some fool toddling around with a hand held. I think it is going to come down to standards eventually, the more people willing to pay for that kind of foolishness the more diluted the real porn sites are going to get, so really people need to think before they cough up for crap like that.

I would rather see fewer sites with higher quality. I saw "Brandon Cody" launched a "fans only" which looks like he is what - fucking chicks? Hard pass. The dude was past his expiration date when SC pawned him off on "Men", I never understood his popularity to begin with, he was not THAT gorgeous and the dude has a micro penis. Like really WTF. He should have been bottoming 3 scenes in, I blame SC for letting him continue to "poke fun" for as long as he did. I think Men was pouring on the pressure for him to go ass up, and he wasn't having it. People are only going to watch you fall out of dude's asses for so long.

Thankfully there is such a huge stash of actually hot porn out there, I don't have to rely on the crap they are churning out right now.
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2018, 12:41:53 pm »

Since I haven't paid attention to porn in a while I started to search what the studios have to offer, and what I see is absolutely embarrassing. MEN.com is now featuring a scene where someone, in order to seduce the straight guy (figures, it's the norm there) actually puts on a female mask, and said female is actually a porn star. Not only that, but their "sister" site also features a scene that revives the old baitbus concept. If they want to cater to a heterosexual audience just rename the studio to "WOMEN.com" and call it a day (sorry babes.com). It's beyond ridiculous that a site that is supposed to cater towards a homosexual audience has to use the same tired "seduce straight guy" shit over and over again, that and of course some of the worst plots ever in the history of humanity "seducing a serial killer? Wat??!!"

Skipping to the next studio, I went over Sean Cody who I like(d) and I started to browse around and let me say my piece. It's cool that they're hiring gay guys recently because you never know, they may be useful when it comes to gay porn y'know, the problem that I have is that these guys look borderline disgusting to me. Maybe disgusting is harsh but I just look at their profiles and for various reasons there's always something that I just don't like, I mean come the fuck on, you can't hire a guy that pretends to be the dominant man when he could chop his dick off and be your standard girl from the next door. Not only that, but a while ago I noticed something also about the quality of the videos. It's like they were using cheap smartphones found from the trash bins to film their scenes, just plain awful. Just how worse can this "once the best gay porn studio" get?

I see the word "MindGeek" very often lately, so everytime there's a word unknown to me I do a little research and what I find actually explains the sucky state of those two companies I mentioned. Before SC was sold to this shitty ass company they were the best in my opinion. From what I understand MG owns most of the straight porn studios and tube sites and also some of the gay ones, including SC and MEN. Now I see the reason behind MEN's awful storylines and SC's poor quality videos, it's almost like they're making them look bad on purpose. Sean Cody was one of the best studios around, you just could get a very high quality scene basically every week, the videos were clean and the lights enhanced the performances, the models were actually hot and you could get a variety of races and builds, but what's left of that? Absolutely nothing. Nowadays you're getting twinks everywhere, mind you twinks based on SC's standards, but fucking hell I liked that standard so yeah they're twinks, who can barely act or say a word, their pros are waayy past their due and when they eventually leave they get replaced by the shittiest models they can find, the situation is bad, really.

I think the problem is that these unskilled hoes are coming straight out of college and want easy money, these studios need the models ASAP so they hire everyone, without giving a fuck about what the audience really wants, you know, that same audience that helped your studio to raise its name and popularity a while ago. Watching a Sean Cody scene (when I can, because they're almost irritating to me) is a chore, just very poor video quality (and they say they're 4K huh), awful camera angles and not even mentioning the sudden color tones changing in the middle of the video, like what the goddamn fuck is wrong with you, the average-decent scene are getting rare week after week. I can't stand this, in a matter of a few years it's become one of the worst studios around, and ChaosMen is even worse but at least some of their scene look good, they may as well call it ChaosTwink. Jesus, why are most of their gay guys looking like they haven't touched dinner for years and need some pills to even sound like men? Is this how they want to portrait homosexual guys? By stereotyping the shit out of us with ugly looking bitches that may as well go to straight porn and they wouldn't even notice that they're guys?

Sorry if I sound too harsh but I have enough of this, gay porn today is becoming seriously way too annoying to me, and I ain't gonna subscribe to any OnlyFans account when they can't even figure out the lights and their videos are two minutes long, two fucking minutes. I'm glad GISP exists, it's the only independent studio that can produce good quality porn nowadays without any asinine plot and models actually look good. Fucking hell, SC may as well fold, just end their misery please.
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2018, 07:56:58 pm »

Hello everyone, many of you don't even know who I am and that's okay, I barely made any posts lately, let alone a new thread, but this is something that's been bothering me for a while and I need to discuss this.

Okay so, I started watching porn when I was a kid. Now, don't get it twisted, it actually was straight porn back then and it was an accident, I didn't even know what the fuck I was watching back then lel. Anyway, only during my teenager days (I'm 24 now) I started to discover the world of gay porn and that was also when I was trying to figure out who I really was, but I digress. Porn was different back then, social media wasn't as big as it is today and porn is accessible pretty much everywhere now, but the real reason that I opened this thread is this: I seem to get bored of watching gay porn quite often lately.

Now, I believe there's nothing wrong with watching porn at all even if you have a normal sex life, porn is meant to be an art form which focus is to entertain those who watch, but lately I think the "entertainment" aspect is almost zero for me. Personally speaking I prefer condom scenes, but I don't mind a bareback scene every once in a while, however we all know how the bareback scene/studios have increased so much over these past few years and more often than not these scene are extremely boring to me. Now, even condom scenes can get boring, the point I'm trying to make is that porn lacks that passion, that feeling of watching two guys who are into it, everything seems bland to me. Doesn't help that I also find some of the actors really bland. I'm really into muscle guys, or at least athletic dudes that don't look like broomsticks, I wanna see the meat, I ain't got time for bones, but hey, that's me. Some people are into the twink category, that's okay, but nobody likes bones and I'm seeing way too many of them lately. I also don't like feminine boys that pretend to be macho guys, that just ain't working, forcing someone in a role that doesn't belong to them is always wrong.

So I now ask you, do you share the same thoughts? Let's discuss. And apologize for any spelling errors, it's 1:40 AM over here  Grin

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I would say your assessment of the situation is spot on. Mindgeek did utterly ruin Sean Cody, they have also pretty much scuttled the entire gay porn industry. They were among the first to start peppering tube sites which IMO has brought about the end of gay porn as we knew it. Now I realize that especially since we are having this discussion on a gay porn sharing site this argument seems a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, but it does not make this less true.

These sites relied very much on membership sales, the advent of "tube sites" began chipping away at the bottom line right from the rip. After all, why bother subscribing to a site when within hours of a scene being released you can see it on sites like "my Vidster"? Sure, usually within a few hours of it's being posted someone flags it for removal, but it will continue to pop up on hundreds of other feeds, a day, three days - whatever. The fact they have already "seeded" these sites with other scene clips makes it almost impossible to police. THAT caused a huge shift in their subscriber base. So to stem the losses, they increased their presence - collecting add dollars for full scene seeding.

The resulting loss of revenue meant slashing the amount models were making for these scenes. THAT created a real issue. A huge part of the allure for guys who were coming into it was the cash. Think about it - you are putting your naked visage on the internet where it will remain forever. Worse yet, with all these tube sites the likelyhood that virtually EVERYONE who knows you will eventually see your hungry asshole sliding up and down on some dude's cock (thanks tube sites) Hell, that career in porn just lost it's luster.

The world may be evolving, but I have yet to find a reputable company that would be open to the idea of an employee doing hardcore. Hell Kurt Wild couldn't hold a job at Quiznos because on of the customers recognized him - and THAT was before tube sites were really a thing. So, the result of slashing models pay - the quality of the model (appearance) has taken a total nose dive. All the sudden the level of "rough trade" guys in gay porn went through the roof.

Sites like Sean Cody, that once had their pick of the litter are now struggling to even find hot GAY guys to do their scenes. Corbin Fisher, while they have still managed to snag a few hot faces has had a horrible track record for retention. Once the guys get their faces out there and the offers start rolling, they are off and running. So - what we are left with is bargain basement talent. Sadly, this has telegraphed to the production end as well. I agree the camera work on SC is utterly dismal. Other sites are equally horrific, Active Duty has got the most inept camera man in gay porn, followed closely by SC, and CF.

Seducing the "straight" guy. I don't even know where to start with that shit. It has just become standard issue that even among gay subscribers the only ACTUAL masculine man is straight. It is such shit, and so baffling I can't even put into words how over it I am. I don't sit around dreaming about having sex with straight men, rather it has always been my opinion that G4P is a total hoax. What you have is gay guys acting the roles of "straight guys" having gay sex for money. There are FEW actual exceptions to that. These guys make a regular spectacle of themselves on social media to continue feeding the image, and the number of people willing to drink the coolaid is epic.

Dean of Sean Cody is a perfect example. I don't care if he gets the bloody POPE to endorse his "straight dude card" that bitch is gayer than Ru Paul.  Then you have Sean, so called "married straight guy", please. The man has ridden more dick than any five women I know and loves every second of it. I have dated a few guys who were married, it never ends well for the woman. The list goes on, especially at Sean Cody. Where every man is straight unless his purse keeps falling out every time he opens his mouth. It's the same all around.

I don't know what the future will bring for gay porn, I expect at some point there will be a "correction". I have to say though, if I were a gay porn model, I'd be pretty shook about the tube situation. I mean in effect these companies are re-marketing scenes through multiple porn sites, IMO there is a class action suite just waiting to happen. I mean "Hollywood" actors get paid residuals any time their work is played. Given the risk and exposure these people go through? I should think they are entitled to a chunk of that. I'd be livid.

Alas for now, we sit and wait to see what is next. I am just glad there is a pretty great base of pre-tube porn.
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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2018, 04:32:13 am »

Agree with you a lot. Have to say it is hard to find high quality gay porns in recent days. Nowadays, most scenes just begin with fucking without any passions. Actors just like fucking machine. Hope there will be a change in some day. I have to say some soft core scenes from the gay-movie are better than the hard core ones from gay porn videos.
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2018, 02:22:14 am »

Amateur, like xtube is the best!
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2018, 09:58:03 pm »

Don't know if I mentioned it, but I also noticed that many of these called pornstars look sick and not in a good way. It's like I can feel their HIV+ energy from my monitor everytime I look at them, this is why I fucking hate bareback scenes nowadays. You just can't do bare scene even if the models are under PrEP because this method can't really protect from all STDs.

Of course, the quality of the models is lower than ever too. With the social media these people don't really need gay porn studios to get noticed, that role is now being occupied by sites such as CAM4, onlyfans ecc... In doing so, porn companies are struggling to find some decent models that's why they're kinda forced to hire amateurs, even if they look absolutely disgusting. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with SC Elton? Dude looks like he's been in the oven for his whole life, being 18 doesn't help him either. I'm just saying that these kids, because that's what they are, are so thirsty for some money that they put zero effort, blame goes for the companies as well in the sense that they don't give a fuck about their customers anymore so they just hire whoever they want.

Seriously, the gay porn industry is a fucking mess, and as a gay man I believe watching a scene nowadays annoyes the fuck outta me, I'd like to stop from searching older videos but these fuckers just don't want to do shit about it.
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2018, 09:12:07 pm »

The professional porn industry has failed to evolve. Porn has remained the same for a very long time.
what has changed are only the actors. I mean, you still have that awful repetitive porn music for example.
This is why nowadays, I enjoy more the authentic amateur side of porn (Not the fake amateurs websites), but real hidden, spy, public sex.
But, porn is porn, and as long as men are horny, porn - however boring it is - is not going away.
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