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« on: September 26, 2019, 07:47:15 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaaI9RB70Hs
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2019, 04:25:20 am »

Come on, you can do better than that.   

A highly pro EU, Supreme Court where all members were appointed by Tony Blair an EU whore, can't possibly be biased in the case. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2019, 03:11:40 am »

A highly pro EU

Source?

Supreme Court where all members were appointed by Tony Blair an EU whore, can't possibly be biased in the case. 

Tony Blair didn't appoint the members of the supreme court. The law lords already appointed to act as the highest court of appeal were automatically transferred to become justices of the supreme court when it was established as a separate body to the house of lords.

Lady Hale, its current president was appointed by Theresa May.

Your claims of bias are unfounded.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2019, 09:46:31 am »

Maybe you should check the recent comments by Lady Hale, if you think she's unbiased.

The Lords is even more remoaner than Parliament, if you can imagine that.

Tony Blair had the choice to either take the judges from the High Court, the Law Lords or a combination.  OR he could have had a selection process from judges across the country.    He chose the Law Lords.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2019, 02:22:55 pm »

I've not seen these comments - care to enlighten me?

If Blair had selected judges from anything other than the already established equivalent of the supreme court, there would have been legitimate claims of bias. Damned if you do, damned if you don't i suppose.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 07:04:17 am »

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1186546/Brexit-news-lady-hale-boris-johnson-baroness-hale-brexit-supreme-court
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 08:26:56 am »

You've said she's shown a remain bias. That article is your source. Break down for me where in that article she shows any support for any brexit argument, leave or remain.

All i can see is a woman addressing a conference aimed at supporting schoolgirls, referencing her most high profile case to show that the 'girly swots' so disdained by our PM can rise above even the government.

You see what you want to see, reality be damned.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2019, 02:35:22 pm »

Clearly, I'm not the only one to view it that way. 

It's the remain side that claims, without an ounce of evidence, that we did not vote for no deal and that we were too stupid to know what we were voting for. 
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2019, 03:38:47 pm »

Clearly, I'm not the only one to view it that way. 

Clearly, because it conveniently suits the assertion that the supreme court was wrong, Boris was right. Despite the best legal minds determining he acted unlawfully. It must be a remain plot! It cant be Boris' fault!

It's the remain side that claims, without an ounce of evidence, that we did not vote for no deal and that we were too stupid to know what we were voting for. 

Those who say you're too stupid are themselves morons. I've argued this point several times in twitter posts and the like. Many voted Brexit for legitimate reasons with valid concerns. Claiming they're stupid does nothing to further the discussion.

As for evidence, The campaign provides enough.

'A free-trade deal with the EU will be 'the easiest thing in human history'
'The money saved from leaving the EU will result in the NHS getting £350m a week'
'Turkey is going to join the EU and millions of people will flock to the UK'
'Brexit does not mean the UK will leave the single market'

These are lies told on the campaign - the promises made to the people about what Brexit would involve/mean. These are things people voted for. They were lied to.
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« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 06:33:44 am »

Great legal minds disagree. 

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NO EU Army, aka "its a dangerous fantasy" according to Nick Clegg when he debated Farage.

Osbourne's punishment budget if we voted to leave. 

Reform from within, despite the EU learning nothing from several votes in recent years against them.

The one thing you keep forgetting is that the EU are being bastards to discourage others from leaving.
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« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 09:32:33 am »

Great legal minds disagree.

exactly - on both sides. You have 2 opposing views on a very complex matter. Whoever wins, it must be bias and not the legal interpretation from several experts on the specific merits of the case. It was a unanimous decision.

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NO EU Army, aka "its a dangerous fantasy" according to Nick Clegg when he debated Farage.

Osbourne's punishment budget if we voted to leave. 

Reform from within, despite the EU learning nothing from several votes in recent years against them.

The one thing you keep forgetting is that the EU are being bastards to discourage others from leaving.

Yes, those things were lied about or misrepresented too. Which proves the point that the brexit we were voting for (or against) in 2016 is vastly different than what were getting now. The issue isn't that brexiteers didn't know what they were voting for. The issue is the Brexit being voted for was a lie.
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« Reply #11 on: Today at 10:31:29 am »

Most people I know thought Leave had a tiny chance of winning, regardless of which side they supported.  It wasn't so much on the merits of the case, but the people deciding it. 

The Lords is far, far more remain than Parliament.   

Not surprisingly, the media never, ever tells you that Hesseltine gets £190k a year in farm subsidies from the EU (he doesn't have a farm, just owns the chits), when they drag him on to praise the EU. 

The Lords is full of old politicians who get an EU pension and the EU rules say they can't say bad things about the EU or risk losing that money. Its the same rule with anyone who gets EU money.
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