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« on: August 29, 2020, 08:21:42 am »

https://www.vox.com/2020-presidential-election/2020/8/28/21405325/trump-rnc-speech-fact-check-cnn-daniel-dale





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“This president is a serial liar, and he serially lied tonight,” Dale said.

Here’s the full list of errors, as recited by Dale:

“Trump said Joe Biden is ‘talking about taking down the border wall.’ Biden has specifically, explicitly rejected that idea. He just said he’ll stop further additional construction.”

“Trump claimed, as always, that he is the one who passed the veterans’ choice law. Barack Obama signed that into law in 2014. Trump signed a 2018 law to modify it.”

“Trump said, ‘I have done more for the African American community than any president since Abraham Lincoln.’ That is ludicrous. Lyndon Johnson, for one, signed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.”

“Trump again touted a ‘record 9 million job gain over the past three months.’ He didn’t mention, as usual, that that gain follows a record 22 million job loss over the previous two months.”

“He said he’ll ‘continue to lower drug prices.’ They’ve increased during his presidency.”

“He said they opened a Jerusalem embassy for less than $500,000. Early documents show it was at least $21 million.”

“He claimed NATO member spending has increased for the first time in about 20 years. Spending, in fact, rose in 2015 and in 2016, before he took office.”

“He said he will always, and Republicans will always, strongly protect people with preexisting conditions. That pledge has already been broken. He and they have repeatedly tried to weaken those protections in Obamacare.”

“He claimed again that he banned travel from China and Europe. No, he imposed partial restrictions with many exemptions. Tens of thousands of people continued traveling over.”

“He boasted about the Covid testing system and about his general response. Look, experts nearly universally say the US was fatally slow in its response, especially slow in setting up adequate testing.”

“He said he ended what he called ‘a NAFTA nightmare’ and he signed a brand new US-Mexico-Canada agreement — the USMCA. That agreement preserves, maintains most of NAFTA.”

“He boasted about building about 300 miles of border wall. What he didn’t say is that most of that is replacement barrier. As of August 7, according to official data, just 5 miles had been built where none existed before.”

“He suggested Joe Biden would confiscate guns. That’s baseless. Biden is running on a non-mandatory buyback of so-called assault weapons.”

“He said Democrats want to defund the police. Biden, again, doesn’t, has rejected that.”

“He said he has ‘very good information’ that China wants Biden to win because Biden is soft on China or cheerleads for China. The US intelligence community says China wants Biden to win because it sees Trump as unpredictable.”

“He said Biden vowed to close down charter schools. Biden’s plan is skeptical on charters, but would not abolish them entirely.”

“He denounced Biden for voting for the Iraq War. Biden did indeed vote for the Iraq War. But what Trump doesn’t mention is that he also supported that invasion.”

“He said Democrats twice removed the word ‘God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance at their convention. Two individual caucus meetings outside the main primetime programming did leave it out, but it was uttered in every primetime event.”

“Trump denounced so-called cancel culture as an insidious, left-wing thing. He, Donald J. Trump, has tried to get dozens of people and entities canceled, fired, boycotted, including literally, last week, Goodyear.”

“He said he imposed an order to give 10 years in prison to rioters. That’s a maximum discretionary sentence up to judges, in existing laws. His order just asked the government to fully enforce.”

“He said Biden’s plan would eliminate America’s borders. No. Just no. It’s wrong.”

It’s quite the list, but this level of lying and misleading isn’t new to Trump. According to the Washington Post, Trump has now made more than 20,000 public false or misleading claims since he assumed office.


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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2020, 10:09:01 am »

Sorry but "fact checking" isn't what it used to be. 

The fat black chick from The New Yorker knowingly lied about the disabled vet when she claimed he has nazi tattoos.  She apparently liked to brag that she used her position as a fact checker to spread lies about conservatives. 

Snopes has been caught lying in their "fact checking". 

Tim Pool did several videos on this very topic, as have many others, on YouTube.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2020, 06:20:43 pm »

With over 20,000 false or misleading statements by Trump since his inauguration, it's possible that fact-checkers might have done some of them wrong.  It's equally possible that they have missed some.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2020, 06:27:18 pm »

I honestly was expecting 1 every minute but good for him! Instead of fact checking for false or misleading claims they should mention what was true about the speech. It would make the life of the fact checkers much easier......
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2020, 11:30:37 pm »

I honestly was expecting 1 every minute but good for him! Instead of fact checking for false or misleading claims they should mention what was true about the speech. It would make the life of the fact checkers much easier......

The rest was just nonsensical babble and rabble-rousing to appeal to the lowest common denominator voters.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2020, 05:13:56 am »

Of course, he exaggerates a lot. That isn't lying because people know he isn't being serious, but they count it as a lie. "I'm going to be the greatest President God ever created." But as far as you not being able to put anything in your own words... answer this: what did he lie about? Let's start with ONE thing, in YOUR words. Otherwise, it's just falling on deaf ears. You can't speak for yourself. You just follow like a little dog (a blind dog), lapping up everything that serves your confirmation bias, without checking it for yourself. There's a quote in the Quran that reminds me of. Cuz I'm sure you hate the BIble.

Quran 17:36

"You shall not accept any information unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, And you are responsible for using them." So let's just see if you can verify just one thing (with YOUR brain)... We're waiting in anticipation. That kind of crap is just a big fat nothing heap designed to make it APPEAR big, cuz it's a lot of words, but broken down it's totally shite.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2020, 07:24:05 am »

We had over 3 years of Russia Collusion.   Where were the fact checkers for that?

Where were the fact checkers when Chris Cuomo said that it was a federal crime for regular people to read WikiLeaks? He's told countless lies, including him having COVID-19. 

MSM has told countless lies.

Democrats have lied for decades.

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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2020, 04:42:32 am »

Let's start with some common sense. I'm going to teach you how an independent mind thinks. Let's take your first "lie," that Trump said Biden would tear down the wall, when Biden said he would not, on August 5th.

Number 01: Biden is an empty vessel and he will cave to the mob (top Dems have already bragged about how they can persuade him to suit their agenda). When the mob is tearing down statues that are "racist" - what do you think they will target next? And do you really think Biden will say no? He always caves to the mob because that's how he stays in power for half a century.

Number 02: Trump is the President of the United States, and he is privy to information that you are not privy to. Trump probably knows that Biden *said he wouldn't do that, but we all know how Democrats fuck you in the ass with taxes and shite education and high pollution and shoot little kids in the face because the President made them do it, etc. He may have information that you do not, media.

Number 03: He could have been given bad information about what Biden said. Remember when Harry Reid said he was urging intel agencies to NOT brief the President and feed him false information? That was in public.

Number 04: Lying about that is trivial anyway. Most people have already made their decision and it seems obvious that the Democrats as a whole and as a mob would definitely do that. It's OBVIOUS. There's no escaping it. So you can get all technical, but it doesn't matter, we all know that Dems say one thing and mean another. They lie all the time.

Let's just end it there. You put nothing into context whatsoever, and you don't put anything into your own words. You just copy and paste, and it's just nonsense. That's why everyone is leaving the Democratic Plantation and Democratic States like NY and CA en mass. It's literally happening en mass and you pretend it isn't. That's why you lost in 2016, and in 2020, you haven't changed at all.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2020, 05:15:22 am »

Let's just end it there. You put nothing into context whatsoever, and you don't put anything into your own words. You just copy and paste, and it's just nonsense. That's why everyone is leaving the Democratic Plantation and Democratic States like NY and CA en mass. It's literally happening en mass and you pretend it isn't.
Let's not leave it quite yet:  Since this thread started on a topic of "false or misleading" statements, one should note that people are not "leaving California en mass [sic]."  A quick look at https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/california-population (as well as other sites, including census.gov) shows that the population of California continues to increase.  If people are leaving en masse, even more are arriving.

This reminds me of a restaurant review some years back that said "that place is so crowded, nobody goes there any more."
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2020, 05:34:57 am »

Wow. Are you kidding me? Ever heard of Texas? What planet are you from?
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2020, 05:42:51 am »

Let's just end it there. You put nothing into context whatsoever, and you don't put anything into your own words. You just copy and paste, and it's just nonsense. That's why everyone is leaving the Democratic Plantation and Democratic States like NY and CA en mass. It's literally happening en mass and you pretend it isn't.
Let's not leave it quite yet:  Since this thread started on a topic of "false or misleading" statements, one should note that people are not "leaving California en mass [sic]."  A quick look at https://worldpopulationreview.com/states/california-population (as well as other sites, including census.gov) shows that the population of California continues to increase.  If people are leaving en masse, even more are arriving.

This reminds me of a restaurant review some years back that said "that place is so crowded, nobody goes there any more."

New York has not lost population, either, it just hasn't gained very much as it was the most populous state for over 250 years, until the 1960s.  Most of the growth has been in NYC. 
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2020, 06:19:18 am »

How many non-citizens? Don't you think about that kind of stuff? It does actually matter.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2020, 07:55:38 am »

AOC's district has a high population of illegals.   That is why she and others have been campaigning for them to fill in the census.   

I made a thread about it a while ago talking about how New York state spends over 10x the money on sending illegals to college than for ALL services for veterans, first responders and their families.  That doesn't count all the other money spent on helping illegals.

Likewise California has a legal fund for illegal to fight deportations. 

California spends more money on cleaning up shit, piss, vomit, and dirt needles than it does on helping the homeless. 

Not surprisingly, California's every skyrocketing taxes, especially property taxes, have caused a lot of the homeless problems.   

Texas and Arizona are getting a lot of businesses that formerly were in California. 
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