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« on: September 01, 2020, 05:03:11 am »



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President Donald Trump in a recent speech at Mount Rushmore described “cancel culture” as “the very definition of totalitarianism,” and “completely alien to our culture and our values,” with “absolutely no place in the United States of America.” But he’s attempted to cancel so many people and businesses — since way before he became president — that the Washington Post’s Mehdi Hasan dubbed him “The King of cancel culture.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/06/30/cancel-culture-trump-mcenany/

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Trump has a long history of calling for the firing or boycotting of anyone he doesn't like. Here are more than 50 examples:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/z3eyge/trump-called-cancel-culture-the-definition-of-totalitarianism-but-hes-tried-to-cancel-all-these-people-and-businesses


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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2020, 06:23:31 am »

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President Donald Trump in a recent speech at Mount Rushmore described “cancel culture” as “the very definition of totalitarianism,”
Without taking a position on the political or social issues involved here, one must note that very often when people say "<Thing that I don't like> is the definition of <a broader concept that I really don't like,> they aren't using vocabulary properly.  They usually mean that something is the epitome/a paradigm/a really good instantiation/ of the broader concept that they don't like.

For example, a Ferrari is not the definition of a sports car, although most would agree that it's a pretty good example of one  The definition of a sports car, per the Cambridge English Dictionary, is "a fast, low car, often for two people only."  And while there are other ways to formulate this definition, perhaps referencing cornering ability and braking, "Ferrari" is not a definition.  If someone were to say that that a new Ferrari is "the definition of a sports car," they are simply wrong.  This is not a matter of opinion about the relative merits of Ferraris vs. Porsches...it's just a fact of the English language.

This is worth noting, because if public figures wish to advance an argument, it's important that they use correct grammar and vocabulary.  If they fail at this, their assertions can become meaningless...which is most likely not their intent.  It can also suggest that they are intellectually deficient.
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2020, 06:36:26 am »

It can also suggest that they are intellectually deficient.

This is Donald J. Trump we're talking about.  I suppose it's impressive that he could pronounce the word "totalitarianism" but expecting him to understand what it means, etc. is unrealistic even so.

It is also his normal practice to criticize others for things that actually apply to him more than it does to them.  Whenever he says something negative about someone, I always chuckle because he doesn't realize that because irony is beyond him.
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2020, 07:55:24 am »

It can also suggest that they are intellectually deficient.

This is Donald J. Trump we're talking about.  I suppose it's impressive that he could pronounce the word "totalitarianism" but expecting him to understand what it means, etc. is unrealistic even so.

It is also his normal practice to criticize others for things that actually apply to him more than it does to them.  Whenever he says something negative about someone, I always chuckle because he doesn't realize that because irony is beyond him.

Thank you for the statement on your position, please give an example. Thank you. And your title is ridiculous. Cancel culture is totalitarian because you are trying to force people to shut up or be destroyed. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's why it's called: CANCELLED. The mob tells you what you can and can't say. The mob is competing with the government. And in parts, making deals.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2020, 04:55:00 pm »

This reminds me of the infamous billboard saying, "Illiterate?  Write for help."  Not unlike my internet provider telling me that if my connection goes down, I can get help on their website.  But I digress off-topic.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2020, 05:49:19 pm »

No. Your side is actually totalitarian. It's an obvious and overwhelming reality. You guys have become fascists and book burners (the very thing you claimed the patriarchy was guilty of). It's a fact that only you deny. Keep denying all you want. Your team is literally out on the streets burning down buildings, violently injuring innocent people, looting and blaming Trump for all of it. "Trump made me steal dem shoes!" Puh lease. You've had the mob go after television show hosts to try to get them to shut up. You've had the big tech companies and even banks go after people who you wanted to shut up. You are fascist totalitarians and criminals now and you're trying to start a war over "racism" while the big banks and big mega corporations enslave us all - that's who the conservatives have been fighting. So honestly, you guys are not worth the time to even respond to, because everyone sees what's happening and you pretend its just our imagination.

There are no conservatives rioting, looting, burning, punching, shooting, stabbing, and the list goes on. Democrats are trashy people with very low IQ. And you guys pattin' each other on the back to say "I guess he's illiterate." Well, we're going to start coming after you because this shit has crossed the line, so get ready. We are all armed to the teeth and we're just done with you playing violent games with  our country that's getting people killed, the time for self defense is rapidly approaching. So get ready, because you aint seen nothing yet. I would be terrified if I were you by the way. You have no idea what you're up against. Veterans think differently - and they see your violence, and they are primed to defend. We're all getting sick of this infantile behavior from the left and unfortunately, more of yours WILL be getting what's inevitable. Just sayin, it's cause and effect and you're asking for it. So good luck with riding over the cliff and being insane. We don't want you. Not in the same room with us, we see you with your Biden bumper sticker and when your car is broke down we make sure to throw bottles of piss on you as we drive by. ETC. What goes around comes around. The Democratic Party is STUPID.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2020, 08:09:21 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmx3X46Xdi4
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2020, 03:01:35 am »

No. Your side is actually totalitarian. It's an obvious and overwhelming reality. You guys have become fascists and book burners (the very thing you claimed the patriarchy was guilty of). It's a fact that only you deny. Keep denying all you want. Your team is literally out on the streets burning down buildings, violently injuring innocent people, looting and blaming Trump for all of it. "Trump made me steal dem shoes!" Puh lease. You've had the mob go after television show hosts to try to get them to shut up. You've had the big tech companies and even banks go after people who you wanted to shut up. You are fascist totalitarians and criminals now and you're trying to start a war over "racism" while the big banks and big mega corporations enslave us all - that's who the conservatives have been fighting. So honestly, you guys are not worth the time to even respond to, because everyone sees what's happening and you pretend its just our imagination.

There are no conservatives rioting, looting, burning, punching, shooting, stabbing, and the list goes on. Democrats are trashy people with very low IQ. And you guys pattin' each other on the back to say "I guess he's illiterate." Well, we're going to start coming after you because this shit has crossed the line, so get ready. We are all armed to the teeth and we're just done with you playing violent games with  our country that's getting people killed, the time for self defense is rapidly approaching. So get ready, because you aint seen nothing yet. I would be terrified if I were you by the way. You have no idea what you're up against. Veterans think differently - and they see your violence, and they are primed to defend. We're all getting sick of this infantile behavior from the left and unfortunately, more of yours WILL be getting what's inevitable. Just sayin, it's cause and effect and you're asking for it. So good luck with riding over the cliff and being insane. We don't want you. Not in the same room with us, we see you with your Biden bumper sticker and when your car is broke down we make sure to throw bottles of piss on you as we drive by. ETC. What goes around comes around. The Democratic Party is STUPID.
Valuable posts discuss issues, not personalities.  Hate-filled tirades are best wrapped in toilet paper and flushed.

I tried to report this post to the moderator because of its advocacy of violence, but the system seems to have given your posts immunity to being reported.
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2020, 04:22:58 am »

@eobox91103 I have given out in debating ManHandler. He's a complete lost cause. He is completely engulfed in his views and is impossible for him to rationalize his arguments and/or the arguments others are making. As evidence, I leave these posts where I argue with him:

https://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=68157.0

https://forum.gaytorrent.ru/index.php?topic=68193.0

I have moved on and decided to avoid engagement with this person.

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“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.”  ― Bill Murray

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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain

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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2020, 05:08:41 am »


I have moved on and decided to avoid engagement with this person.


WE ALL KNOW THE REAL REASON IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T ANSWER FOR WHAT CLINTON DID TO THE PEOPLE OF HAITI.  YOU WIN BUT YOUR SCORE IS ZERO.

 Cheers   Cheers   Cheers
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2020, 05:36:06 am »

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“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.”  ― Bill Murray
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“Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain
Very well said.  I'll add one to the list:
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"You can't use reason to argue a person out of position they didn't use reason to get into in the first place." -- John Bosley, late Professor of History
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2020, 09:03:24 am »

WAIT, are you complaining becase ManHhandler suggested that conservatives stand up to the liberal rioting, looting, terrorism, murder etc, etc?

Just like 2015/16, violence is only ok when liberals do iit. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2020, 05:14:20 pm »

WAIT, are you complaining becase ManHhandler suggested that conservatives stand up to the liberal rioting, looting, terrorism, murder etc, etc?
This is the phrase that is offensive:
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Well, we're going to start coming after you because this shit has crossed the line, so get ready. We are all armed to the teeth and we're just done with you playing violent games with  our country that's getting people killed, the time for self defense is rapidly approaching. So get ready, because you aint seen nothing yet. I would be terrified if I were you
You can't possibly tell me that this sort of thing is appropriate for a moderated message board.
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2020, 06:03:28 pm »

Since I ignore every post or comment ManHandler makes, I hadn't read what he said in his tirade. But now that you quote him, yeah, definitely inciting violence. It's actually quite comical in reality because it's coming from him  Grin

It's like that crazy neighbor that spews random and insane stuff like: "yeah just you wait im gonna go to iraq myself with my plastic sword and decapitate bin laden. and then im gonna go to syria kill assad by infiltrating the subway and then tunnels, and then im gonna appear behind and blow him up with my rocket launcher. i then gonna fly back home just to be on time to eat dinner with the family. and everyone's gonna love me because im the greatest hero the US has ever had....."

ManHandler = ignored... LOL
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2020, 06:07:59 pm »

I don't like cancel culture, but there are a few times when deemed necessary for instance: NETFLIX.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2020, 06:09:58 pm »

Since I ignore every post or comment ManHandler makes, I hadn't read what he said in his tirade.
My dumb question of the day:  How does one "ignore" a user?  My IT support says that my computer runs much better if I don't put sh*t in it.
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2020, 07:13:16 pm »

What's wrong with netflix? lol
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2020, 08:57:52 pm »

Since I ignore every post or comment ManHandler makes, I hadn't read what he said in his tirade.
My dumb question of the day:  How does one "ignore" a user?  My IT support says that my computer runs much better if I don't put sh*t in it.

Super Easy. Under your screen name click on "Details and Stats" Then "Friends list" Click on "Find User/Browse User List" and add the name. Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2020, 10:59:32 pm »

Super Easy. Under your screen name click on "Details and Stats" Then "Friends list" Click on "Find User/Browse User List" and add the name. Smiley
Thank you.  It doesn't seem to work very well for me:  While I have that user blocked for PM purposes (see first image below), after clicking on the "Find User/Browse User List" link, I seem to lack the permission to de-crap what I see.

I do appreciate your advice.
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