The far-fetched idea of California seceding from the nation took a tiny step forward this week. California's secretary of state agreed to allow a group called Yes California to begin collecting signatures for a ballot measure, reports the Los Angeles Times. If 585,407 are collected by July 25 — a high hurdle for the relatively small group — a proposal will land on the 2018 ballot to erase lines in the state Constitution outlining California as "an inseparable part of the United States" and the US Constitution as the "supreme law of the land." If passed, it would set up a 2019 vote on whether California should become "a free, sovereign and independent country." Even if that passed, huge hurdles remain. Secession would require a constitutional amendment, with two-thirds support in both the US House and Senate and ratification by at least 38 states."It's basically impossible," notes a post at New York magazine. The idea of a "Calexit" has been in the works since 2014, but the Wall Street Journal notes that it got a boost after Donald Trump's election as a mostly jokey way to register opposition. Seems nuts? "I think we'd have the votes today," says a group co-founder, who argues that California gives the federal government more money than it receives and is "culturally" separate from the rest of the country. "America already hates California, and America votes on emotions." Adds a rep for the California National Party, which supports secession in the long-term but not the current effort, "It's certainly as likely as Donald Trump becoming president." (The movement already has a Moscow "embassy".)
Odd, liberals slagged off Texas and others for talking about seceding under Obama and now they are wanting to do it under Trump. Fucking whiny hypocrites.
We all laughed a year ago about the idea of a failed business man turned reality star becoming President.
Quote from: : (Hidden) on February 05, 2017, 04:48:41 amWe all laughed a year ago about the idea of a failed business man turned reality star becoming President.So? Your country's system allows for that to happen. You were just so nearsighted to realize that it could become reality.I pose the question again: What does California have to offer to any other country to take it in? Does California have the infrastructure to become a country in its own right?
California....Seceding from USA...(and joining Canada!)Oh God, I never laughed so hard in all my life...Are Americans truly stupid or what?What does California has to offer Canada, or any other country? California has nothing but service industry, it cannot supply its own food, it has no industrial sector. And all the so called services and tourism that supposedly make it give more to the Federation than other states wil come to a halt and maybe move out once it separates.American liberals are just useful to fuck the brains out of them (if they have any left, that is)
Oh okay, just googled and found out California is the #6 largest economy in the world (up 2 positions from what I thought) and:California agriculture generates roughly $37.5 billion annually, more than any other state (and this article was written well before this election season, so it wasn't created just to support a Calexit argument or anything)http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jul/26/kevin-de-leon/does-california-really-have-sixth-largest-economy-/http://www.westernfarmpress.com/tree-nuts/what-happens-if-us-loses-california-food-production
Quote from: : (Hidden) on February 06, 2017, 07:00:20 amOh okay, just googled and found out California is the #6 largest economy in the world (up 2 positions from what I thought) and:California agriculture generates roughly $37.5 billion annually, more than any other state (and this article was written well before this election season, so it wasn't created just to support a Calexit argument or anything)http://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2016/jul/26/kevin-de-leon/does-california-really-have-sixth-largest-economy-/http://www.westernfarmpress.com/tree-nuts/what-happens-if-us-loses-california-food-productionInteresting readings...too bad they are not true research papers or raw data.For what they say, I can infer California is only good in producing vegetables...where are the grains and the meat? A country can't live of broccoli and spinach alone.Also, Silicon Valley....if the ventures there perceive even the slight risk in their earnings due to Cali's secession, they will move out. So bye-bye money.Nice try lil' snowflake. Make a better effort next time.
But a country doesn't have to produce all of their own food. I'm not sure any country does. Everyone gets food from other places.
alol biased much? I was simply posting on a quick google research about the topic not trying to make some political point. I cited a source and you didn't. I never said these online articles were incredibly vetted facts or examples of statistical perfection. Let's try to have a civil conversation instead of resorting to partisan mudslinging k? Also if you read my other post, I already said that California seceding would be bad for California and the USA, so stop assuming too much just because I'm bringing up ideas outside your current opinions. Sheesh.As for your claims on meats and grains, where did you get that idea? A simple google search seems to indicate that California has no such deficit on those areas.