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« on: February 08, 2017, 10:38:18 am »

I don't know how anyone can vote Republican and still look at themselves in the mirror.  Betsy DeVos is the most unqualified person I've ever seen.  I watched her entire confirmation hearing and I wouldn't have hired her for an entry level data entry position.  She was awful.  She could barely answer any questions.  She refused to answer some of them.  She provided written answers to questions that she plagiarized from Obama!  I've watched most of the hearings and there are some people I liked more than others but she is BY FAR THE WORST.

Her family has given $1 million to sitting Republicans with $115,000 of that  money coming from here.  There is also another $8 million they have given to Republican Super PACS.  This is "pay to play" at it's finest and it's exactly what Trump promised he would stop.  "Drain the swamp" is a total joke.

On the other hand......at least parents won't have to worry about their kids being eaten by grizzly bears.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2017, 07:24:03 pm »

I don't know how anyone can vote Republican and still look at themselves in the mirror.  Betsy DeVos is the most unqualified person I've ever seen.  I watched her entire confirmation hearing and I wouldn't have hired her for an entry level data entry position.  She was awful.  She could barely answer any questions.  She refused to answer some of them.  She provided written answers to questions that she plagiarized from Obama!  I've watched most of the hearings and there are some people I liked more than others but she is BY FAR THE WORST.

Her family has given $1 million to sitting Republicans with $115,000 of that  money coming from here.  There is also another $8 million they have given to Republican Super PACS.  This is "pay to play" at it's finest and it's exactly what Trump promised he would stop.  "Drain the swamp" is a total joke.

On the other hand......at least parents won't have to worry about their kids being eaten by grizzly bears.

The people in her "School of thought" feel that the Government shouldn't be the end all in regards to education. I can't say I completely disagree but this is another "if it isn't broken don't fix it" type of situation. Granted one could argue the system is broken and that American children are provided a substandard education.

This is kind of a strange issue since by the time these children get through school, the vast majority of the low skill jobs in America will have been replaced with automation. So, maybe it makes sense to adjust the education system. There will be virtually zero low skill jobs available, so I'm pretty sure the idea here is to effectively create an additional tier of education by eliminating the government standards for public education while creating private schools who provide a "superior education." It's not that there isn't private schools already, Betsy's "crowd" just feels the people going through the public education system are not going to participate in the employment market anyways, so there's really no point in the government utilizing resources for people who won't contribute back into the system by paying income tax.

I'm fairly confident it will be revealed that Betsy Devos just wants an education system where "her supporters" can get wealthy off government subsided private schools, while the public school system collapses. Which would force "well-to-do" families to spend the extra money and put their children into the new voucher-ized private schools.

It's just more of the reverse robin hood economic policy that a certain group of "Republicans" want. I'm not sure why the pro autocracy, corporate goon, types gravitated to the Republican party, but something tells me that has to do with the fact that "Republican voters" are skewed towards lesser levels of education.

Most people who have recently obtained a degree in the higher education system will tell you that they kind of felt like they got scammed. Since generally this picture of having a high paying job is painted by the college, then after 4 years of accumulating ludicrously high student debt, the majority of graduates find that the jobs they believed would be available to them, don't materialize. I guess some people feel that this is the way the entire education system should work. I find it really hard to believe that any voter actually supports Betsy DeVos.

As the job market continues to shrink in America, politicians will continue to support low education voters with lies like the concept "of bringing coal jobs back." Which, isn't going to happen. Do you really think investors in the energy sector are going to invest heavily into coal when Solar is now lower in the cost per KWH than fossil? It should obvious that's what Betsy was trying to do here, I'm sure the majority of her supporters are not aware of the fact that there have only been 18 reported bear attacks in the United States since 2010, none of which lead to the death of a child who was at school. I'm sure the comment is a wonderful rallying point for low education Americans.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2017, 08:20:20 pm »

t. I'm not sure why the pro autocracy, corporate goon, types gravitated to the Republican party, but something tells me that has to do with the fact that "Republican voters" are skewed towards lesser levels of education.

I'm not sure why most gays are so hateful and ill-informed, but something tells me that it is because they live in little bubbles and don't bother to actually educate themselves or ever learn how to think for themselves.

Your statement is so ridiculous, on its very face. I tend to vote Republican, and have my Ph.D. from one of the premier universities in the world. Coupled with the 3 Masters degrees, and my recent acceptance to one of the best Veterinary Schools in this country, I know very few people who are well educated that don't live in the bubble of academia who support the far-left progressive (regressive) agenda. I guess it is easier to assume that anyone that isn't just like you must be a racist, misogynist, homophobic, ignorant hick.

By the way, I really hope Pelosi asks President Bush to step in and protect Korea from Putin.
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2017, 08:22:57 pm »

You sound far more qualified than DeVos.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2017, 09:19:32 pm »

I'm not sure why most gays are so hateful and ill-informed, but something tells me that it is because they live in little bubbles and don't bother to actually educate themselves or ever learn how to think for themselves.

Your statement is so ridiculous, on its very face. I tend to vote Republican, and have my Ph.D. from one of the premier universities in the world. Coupled with the 3 Masters degrees, and my recent acceptance to one of the best Veterinary Schools in this country, I know very few people who are well educated that don't live in the bubble of academia who support the far-left progressive (regressive) agenda. I guess it is easier to assume that anyone that isn't just like you must be a racist, misogynist, homophobic, ignorant hick.

By the way, I really hope Pelosi asks President Bush to step in and protect Korea from Putin.

LMAO... PHD and can't Google basic demographic statistics.
I know, facts are such ridiculous things sometimes.
I love the childish remarks about "little bubbles" and the comments about the people you know. Hysterical...
I'm not a liberal so I feel it's important to let you know that I'm not the one in the bubble. The majority of Americans in your "education situation" do not vote the way you do.

Why do you care what Pelosi said? What does that have to do with the topic? I really figured I would be able to have an intelligent conversation with somebody who has "3 masters degrees" and a "Ph.D." but I guess somebody with such a high level of education is "entitled" to vocalize their assumptions of what other people think.

I really do appreciate your opinion that "most gays are hateful and ill-informed" but my post was objective and based upon facts.

Thanks for the hate speech Doctor Amicusets.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 07:16:56 pm »

I don't know how anyone can vote Republican and still look at themselves in the mirror.  Betsy DeVos is the most unqualified person I've ever seen.  I watched her entire confirmation hearing and I wouldn't have hired her for an entry level data entry position.  She was awful.  She could barely answer any questions.  She refused to answer some of them.  She provided written answers to questions that she plagiarized from Obama!  I've watched most of the hearings and there are some people I liked more than others but she is BY FAR THE WORST.

Her family has given $1 million to sitting Republicans with $115,000 of that  money coming from here.  There is also another $8 million they have given to Republican Super PACS.  This is "pay to play" at it's finest and it's exactly what Trump promised he would stop.  "Drain the swamp" is a total joke.

On the other hand......at least parents won't have to worry about their kids being eaten by grizzly bears.

Real simple.  We don't want the government running out lives.  We don't believe we should be forced to buy insurance or pay a fine.  We don't believe we should pay for someones cell phone. We believe the gov't should promote the common welfare not provide welfare.  We believe in the right to bear arms.  We believe a baby is a child of god not some botched science experiment that can be murdered.  We believe that when we work hard to build a business, we've built it!  Not as Obama said "You didn't build it"  We worked hard for what we have and are getting sick of hearing it was white privilege. We believe it's our duty as freedom loving Americans to oppose communism, socialism, Nazism, Marxism, fascism and the evils associated with them no matter how many times the democrats call us racists or bigots.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2017, 10:02:00 pm »

LMAO... PHD and can't Google basic demographic statistics.
I know, facts are such ridiculous things sometimes.
I love the childish remarks about "little bubbles" and the comments about the people you know. Hysterical...
I'm not a liberal so I feel it's important to let you know that I'm not the one in the bubble. The majority of Americans in your "education situation" do not vote the way you do.

Why would I give two shits what the demographics of some polls are that say who Trump voters were? Those same polls were saying, up until and throughout the day of the election that he had less than 13% chance of winning. I am speaking of my experience, as a well-educated gay man. I know more "educated" people than your average Joe Schmoe, and I am telling that you more voted for Trump than the media would have people believe. As for your bubble, everything you post come straight from the Democrat talking points spewed by their elected officials and the biased media. EVERY SINGLE THING.

Why do you care what Pelosi said? What does that have to do with the topic? I really figured I would be able to have an intelligent conversation with somebody who has "3 masters degrees" and a "Ph.D." but I guess somebody with such a high level of education is "entitled" to vocalize their assumptions of what other people think.

You thought it would be funny to point a funny comment Secretary DeVos made in answer to a question, but it isn't so funny when the circumstances surrounding that comment are explained. So, just to prove the point that your bubble doesn't include a real grasp of "everything" that takes place or is said in Washington, this week Pelosi referred to the President, on more than one occasion, as President Bush. She didn't bother to clarify if she thinks it is 41 or 43 that is currently the president, but I am sure someone will eventually let her know what year it is. Also, the terrifically ignorant Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) was discussing her calls to impeach Trump, because of his friendship with Russia and Putin, even after Putin had invaded Korea.

FTR... my Ph.D. is in Philosophy, so reasoning and logic are the cornerstones of my beliefs, and I would never presume to try and silence anyone, at any time. I have found through experience that more the people like yourself speak, the more your bias hatred and shows.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2017, 07:42:10 am »

Why would I give two shits what the demographics of some polls are that say who Trump voters were? Those same polls were saying, up until and throughout the day of the election that he had less than 13% chance of winning. I am speaking of my experience, as a well-educated gay man. I know more "educated" people than your average Joe Schmoe, and I am telling that you more voted for Trump than the media would have people believe. As for your bubble, everything you post come straight from the Democrat talking points spewed by their elected officials and the biased media. EVERY SINGLE THING.

What do polls have to do with Demographics? Okay so you "know more educated people than most", great. Who cares... That's absolutely not relevant to this discussion in any way. I'm not fooled or impressed by the "feats of anonymous internet users." So you spent two decades paying somebody for pieces of paper. Great life man...

What's next? Are you going to tell me next that you're superior to me because you worship 2000 year old comic books?

You thought it would be funny to point a funny comment Secretary DeVos made in answer to a question, but it isn't so funny when the circumstances surrounding that comment are explained. So, just to prove the point that your bubble doesn't include a real grasp of "everything" that takes place or is said in Washington, this week Pelosi referred to the President, on more than one occasion, as President Bush. She didn't bother to clarify if she thinks it is 41 or 43 that is currently the president, but I am sure someone will eventually let her know what year it is. Also, the terrifically ignorant Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) was discussing her calls to impeach Trump, because of his friendship with Russia and Putin, even after Putin had invaded Korea.

FTR... my Ph.D. is in Philosophy, so reasoning and logic are the cornerstones of my beliefs, and I would never presume to try and silence anyone, at any time. I have found through experience that more the people like yourself speak, the more your bias hatred and shows.

What are you a Buchanan fan or something? Yeah. Great Idea! The main stream Republicans impeach Trump, the guy who once ran for president as a Democrat. I can see the headlines now; "Republicans Save America From Trump." A guy that's sane and knows what he is doing becomes president, this is a great plan...

Also, no offense, but you literally just did what Pelsoi did. I realize you meant Crimea.

Edit: And yeah, I hate that noise coming from the Alt-Right crazy camp, who somehow believe that main stream elected Republicans actually care about them or that America is some how now becoming "fascist." The Republicans have complete control of the government and they can fix the financial issues that actually matter. Screw your feelings, fix the problems... Come on ... What the hell is this??? Privatizing education doesn't bring jobs back, it doesn't reduce the deficit, and it's not going stop the BS trade deals which sound good, until you see what happened and realize that America traded quality jobs for crap products...

Devos was a bad choice.

The sooner the Republicans realize that Trump used them just like he used everyone else in his life, the better.

Trump got the nomination, not many people believed he could win, he won. Great, Hillary lost, but it's time for people who know what they're doing to take over one way or another. This "Twitter Presidency" while the president waffles around with basic constitutional law is insanity. I could have written 50 different executive orders that would have effectively done the same thing and would have been legal. There's a broken link somewhere and it can't be fixed. Trump is definitely exhibiting signs of age related mental illness.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2017, 10:46:13 pm »

What do polls have to do with Demographics? Okay so you "know more educated people than most", great. Who cares... That's absolutely not relevant to this discussion in any way...

Also, no offense, but you literally just did what Pelsoi did. I realize you meant Crimea...


Trump got the nomination, not many people believed he could win, he won. Great, Hillary lost, but it's time for people who know what they're doing to take over one way or another. This "Twitter Presidency" while the president waffles around with basic constitutional law is insanity. I could have written 50 different executive orders that would have effectively done the same thing and would have been legal. There's a broken link somewhere and it can't be fixed. Trump is definitely exhibiting signs of age-related mental illness.

1) Do you realize how polls work, and how they decide which demographics voted which way? If you don't then you probably should quit trying to use "demographics" as an argument for why you think only stupid people voted for Trump (not to mention how wrong they were proven to be).

2) I did NOT mean Korea. I was repeating Rep. Waters's claims.

3) So, you are a constitutional law expert, that thinks the EO was unconstitutional? What brings you to that conclusion considering I have yet to read a single expert opinion that thinks that. For one thing, the constitutionality has yet to be argued in any court, and if you are referencing CA9's decision not to stay the TRO, I would like to remind you that CA9 is consistently one of the tope 2 circuits overturned by the SCOTUS, but please, enlighten us all on the constitutional law that you are apparently more versed in than the vast majority of experts in the field.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 11:06:08 pm »

It's pretty silly to believe polls at all at this point.  They all said Trump would lose.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2017, 12:18:59 am »

1) Do you realize how polls work, and how they decide which demographics voted which way? If you don't then you probably quit trying to use "demographics" as an argument for why you think only stupid people voted for Trump.

2) I did NOT mean Korea. I was repeating Rep. Waters's claims.

3) So, you are a constitutional law expert, that thinks the EO was unconstitutional? What brings you to that conclusion considering I have yet to read a single expert opinion that thinks that. For one thing, the constitutionality has yet to be argued in any court, and if you are referencing CA9's decision not to stay the TRO, I would like to remind you that CA9 is consistently one of the tope 2 circuits overturned by the SCOTUS, but please, enlighten us all on the constitutional law that you are apparently more versed in than the vast majority of experts in the field.

1) Demographics do not change based upon polls, polls that sample populations can. This is extremely basic statistics... If you do not understand the difference, I can not help you.

2) Okay, I see what you're saying but; you can't mix quotations and your own statements and be credible. The quote was "And the fact that he is wrapping his arms around Putin while Putin is continuing to advance into Korea." Your failure to either quote the (potentially) misspoken statement or indicate the statement was misspoken is your responsibility, I read what you wrote. Your statement is just as incorrect as the statement Maxine Waters made. Also, you accusing somebody of being ignorant when you fail to use quotations properly is comical... Since you didn't quote her, you just made the same mistake.

I don't even understand why you would bring this up when Donald has said things like: "Because I was down there and I watched our police and our firemen down at 7/11, down at the World Trade Center right after it came down. And I saw the greatest people I've ever seen in action."

Not to mention, that he has repeatedly made up words and don't even get me started on Sean Spicer, who is probably going to be out a job soon, or Kellyanne Conway referring to nonexistent terrorist attacks.

If you want to argue they are all ignorant, sure I completely agree. Something tells me you didn't think your argument through very carefully.

3)It appears you have not read the ruling, I suggest you go read the ruling yourself: https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/02/09/17-35105.pdf

I'll remind you that "the opinions you have read" do not represent all opinions and there were certainly many who did not agree, but I realize, Googling the information would require you to leave your comfort zone, which you obviously have no plans on doing.

It's unlikely that SCOTUS would even hear the case. The solution is quantification, it's easy to evaluate the legality of a binary order. An order of the same effect be easily achieved by dramatic restrictions and reductions. Trump should give up (sounds like he is) and rewrite the order, preferably into separate orders.

I'm totally for restricting the flow of migrants from countries in the middle east, which is where the majority of the terrorists are and have historically come from. Cherry picking out a handful of countries and then blaming Obama is not how that should have been handled. I think people know Obama isn't the president anymore.

The US is going to be in a bad situation in a decade when companies like Google automate cars and basically everything else. I think it's a wonderful idea to start to limiting immigration now before the job market gets completely taken over by robots. If you think the percentage of people not participating in the job market is high now, just wait...

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

I hope you understand that the unemployment numbers are complete horseshit... This is a real issue...

Immigration needs to get heavily restricted across the board and the illegals need to go... This Muslim crap is a total distraction from what needs to happen.
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