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« on: July 14, 2017, 01:38:18 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpqNzk6fJqE&t

That video is pretty damning, but the liberals will find a way to spin it to blame everyone but their own.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2017, 07:49:36 pm »

Damning??
Obama and Loretta Lynch let the bad lady in.  Poor Donnie, he didn't know better.  And the bad lady hurt him so bad.
Gimme a break.  Stop trying to deflect. It was Goldstone and his Russian billionaire friends that attracted Don to the meeting, not this lawyer.  She had nothing to do with the transaction to arrange the meeting. She just showed up and according to Don, provided nothing.
The damning part of the emails released is Don's enthusiasm to receive Russian Intelligence dirt on Hillary.  Let me see you explain that away.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2017, 08:09:54 am »

I see you ignored 99.99999999% of what Tucker Carlson said.     
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2017, 08:24:05 am »

I think you posted the wrong link.  Tucker never mentioned the lawyer--or was that the point. He argued we should work with Russia no matter what they did in the 2016 elections.  The title of the video is
 "TUCKER TAKES ON SMARMY RHODE ISLAND BOTTOM FEEDER . 7 / 13 / 2017" . who is actually a Rhode Island congressman.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2017, 08:36:20 am »

It's at the start of the video.   You may have to restart the video. 
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2017, 09:00:50 am »

Ok.  Now I can debunk it:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/dhs-debunks-trump-claim-that-loretta-lynch-let-russian-lawyer-into-us

Between September of 2015 and February of 2016, "DHS paroled Natalia Veselnitskaya into the U.S. in concurrence with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, Southern District of New York, allowing her to participate in a client’s legal proceedings."

In June 2016, "In June 2016, she was issued a B1/B2 nonimmigrant visa by the U.S. Department of State.”

No one has accused her of espionage.  At worst, they suggest when was representing the Kremlin's interests at the meeting. Are you suggesting she was part of a Democratic plot to discredit Don. Jr?  If that were true, why go through ll of that trouble and never publicize it?  By all accounts, even the FBI did not know about the meeting until very recently.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2017, 09:38:00 am »

LOL, Homeland Security getting chatty with Buzzfeed, of all people.   They are worse than CNN. 

What about the rest of the her activities while she was here? 

Why the about face of the State Department over her visa? 


I'm gonna assume here, but as a white male (my assumption) Buzzfeed hates you.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2017, 10:41:12 am »

LOL, Homeland Security getting chatty with Buzzfeed, of all people.   They are worse than CNN. 

What about the rest of the her activities while she was here? 

Why the about face of the State Department over her visa? 


I'm gonna assume here, but as a white male (my assumption) Buzzfeed hates you.
When you can't attack the information, attack the messenger.  It was a quote from DHS.  I'm sure you can find it somewhere else.
Her other activities while here?  She attended a congressional hearing (did not testify at one) and went to a lunch attended by a congressman.  Even if she were a known spy, there is often little the State Department can do to dent a visa. That is why foreign embassies here are filled with spies. She essentially was a lobbyist seeking the repeal of the Magnetsky Act/ . Personally, I think too much is being made of her role.  The meeting was initiated by Anin.  I think this first approach was to see if Donnie would play ball.  Much to the Kremlin's delight, He jump up and down and shouted "Put me in the Game, Pleeeease!"
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2017, 11:53:23 am »

Buzzfeed is well known for it's absolute hatred of white men and anyone to the right of Stalin.    Has anyone seen the Homeland Security statement?    I wouldn't put it past Buzzfeed to have made it up. 


The lawyer didn't matter to anyone in the Obama administration and now suddenly she's a Russian spy working directly for Putin.   
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2017, 03:16:56 pm »

There was a similar statement by a spokesman for Loretta Lynch.  The lawyer's special are of interest was near and dear to Putin's heart, but no one has proven she actually worked for Putin.  She probably did not. Typical Russian intelligence strategy is to use a relatively "clean" cutout for the first meeting to ensure plausible deniability if things go awry. She is the least important part of this story.  She has been elevated by conservative media in an effort to distract and confuse a very harmful piece of news for the current administration
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2017, 07:02:31 pm »

Of course Lynch is going to deny anything to do with this story.    She is gonna distance her self from a supposed "Russian spy" who supposedly brought down Hillary's 98% chance to win. 
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2017, 07:55:11 pm »



EDIT:  You need to start the video over again.   For some reason it's starting partway through.

Drop the "=183s" from your link.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2017, 07:58:28 pm »

thanks  Hug
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2017, 08:42:30 pm »

Just to defend my fact checking, if you google Natalia V. visa:

https://www.google.com/search?
q=natalia+veselnitskaya+visa&oq=natalia+veselnitskaya+visa&gs_l=serp.1.0.0i3k1.8284.22403.0.24387.20.19.0.0.0.0.230.1833.13j4j1.18.0....0...1.1.64.serp..4.11.1206...30i10k1.WD4AYbmy5Ck

You will find many hits from across the media spectrum.  She was let in by the recommendation of the Department of Justice for the Southern district of NY to defend a client in Sept 2015-February 2016.  InJune she came in on a simple business or leisure visa. The only nefarious thing about he entry is the way it has been portrayed in the conservative media, just as a distraction.
The funny thing about conspiracy theories is that they are 1% fact and 99% innuendo. That is why they fail to die when the facts are proven wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2017, 10:39:23 am »

But she's Putin's personal spy.   Why was she allowed in, in June?     She seems to have a lot of access then. 
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