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« on: July 18, 2017, 08:25:12 am »

The moonbats are extremely short sighted. They want their precious free healthcare and other giveaways.. but they ignore the present and the future. 

The population of the planet is growing at an exponential rate.  Each additional person is that much more pollution and CO2 emissions. So much for their bitching about "global warming".   
The national debt is now $10 trillion.. oops.. correction.. the accumulated debt for the first 43 presidents was $10 Trillion... #44 (Obama) raised that to $20 trillion.   That is $64,000 for every person in the USA!  Supposedly, Social Security will be bankrupt in 13 years, and Medicaid in 15 years. 

People need to worry about having food to eat, and water to drink.. not healthcare to pay for their addictions.  70% of americans are taking prescription psychiatric medications.  More like 95% are taking booze, and illegal drugs.   

When are you moonbats going to wake up?    Oh, I forgot.. you don't give a fuck. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 05:40:21 pm »

Yeah! Why support the American citizens when you can build up the military industrial complex!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-congress-idUSKBN19Z1XG

"Underscoring bipartisan support for higher defense spending in Congress, 117 Democrats joined 227 Republicans in backing the measure. Only eight Republicans and 73 Democrats voted no."

Looks like Trump and the Republicans are gearing up for the next major U.S. war. And his supporters will support him no matter how many lives are lost.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 06:18:19 pm »

Yeah! Why support the American citizens when you can build up the military industrial complex!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-congress-idUSKBN19Z1XG

"Underscoring bipartisan support for higher defense spending in Congress, 117 Democrats joined 227 Republicans in backing the measure. Only eight Republicans and 73 Democrats voted no."

Looks like Trump and the Republicans are gearing up for the next major U.S. war. And his supporters will support him no matter how many lives are lost.


Sadly, that is necessary.. mainly due to Sheik Obama.
As many people will remember, Barack Hussein Obama (aka Barry Soetoro) pledged to have all the troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq within his first year in office in 2008.  Well, it's 2017 - and they are still there.   Then, ISIS was created and spread like a cancer across the world under the watch of Obama.  Then, Obama allowed North Korea to develop ICBMs and nuclear weapons...  So now, Trump is forced to either ramp up the military to take care of North Korea, or allow California to get nuked.   I personally expect North Korea to smuggle a dirty nuke into the massive shipping port of California, and detonate it - disrupting trade globally. 
Oh, another thing Obama did.. he virtually killed off NASA.   Under Obama, no more space shuttle program, nothing to replace it, and nothing done during his 8 year regime in the area of space. 
Let's not forget that Obama's home town of Chicago was a virtual war zone during his regime - which he ignored.   Also.. don't forget how Mr. Obama and his supposed dedication to the environment and health allowed the massive city of Flint Michigan to have water so contaminated with lead that it was undrinkable.. and when discovered, did nothing. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 06:25:09 pm »

Yeah! Why support the American citizens when you can build up the military industrial complex!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-congress-idUSKBN19Z1XG

"Underscoring bipartisan support for higher defense spending in Congress, 117 Democrats joined 227 Republicans in backing the measure. Only eight Republicans and 73 Democrats voted no."

Looks like Trump and the Republicans are gearing up for the next major U.S. war. And his supporters will support him no matter how many lives are lost.


Sadly, that is necessary.. mainly due to Sheik Obama.
As many people will remember, Barack Hussein Obama (aka Barry Soetoro) pledged to have all the troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq within his first year in office in 2008.  Well, it's 2017 - and they are still there.   Then, ISIS was created and spread like a cancer across the world under the watch of Obama.  Then, Obama allowed North Korea to develop ICBMs and nuclear weapons...  So now, Trump is forced to either ramp up the military to take care of North Korea, or allow California to get nuked.   I personally expect North Korea to smuggle a dirty nuke into the massive shipping port of California, and detonate it - disrupting trade globally. 
Oh, another thing Obama did.. he virtually killed off NASA.   Under Obama, no more space shuttle program, nothing to replace it, and nothing done during his 8 year regime in the area of space. 
Let's not forget that Obama's home town of Chicago was a virtual war zone during his regime - which he ignored.   Also.. don't forget how Mr. Obama and his supposed dedication to the environment and health allowed the massive city of Flint Michigan to have water so contaminated with lead that it was undrinkable.. and when discovered, did nothing. 

Lol, Trump, the guy who has ties to military weapons manufacturers (Boeing and Lockheed Martin) is "Forced" to ramp up military spending consideing we spend the more than our enemies combined. And then you blame Obama, because that is always gonna be the excuse for Trump's agenda. Sad!
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 10:50:52 pm »

What good is food and water if you are dead?
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2017, 03:15:37 am »

What good is food and water if you are dead?

What good is healthcare if you don't have food and water?
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2017, 01:51:03 pm »

Exactly. We need all three. We do need single payer. I'm glad we agree on something.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2017, 05:27:41 pm »

Exactly. We need all three. We do need single payer. I'm glad we agree on something.

I hope you realize that a significant number of people will oppose any changes - even if they benefit them - just out of fear. 
That Obamacare is a failure.  I'm afraid that it must be either repealed before it collapses completely, or - as it looks like what will actually happen - is that it will collapse completely.  In cold political terms.. I think the number of people who would be thrilled to not be required to purchase health care plans that they don't want  outnumber the people who would be pissed off about it. 

One more thing to consider.. the VA system of healthcare is a disaster.   That being the case, why should we expect that the federal government can manage healthcare for the entire population?  The federal government.. and really all levels of government.. are terrible at managing anything.  This country was built upon the premise of free-markets and competition.   When you impose subsidies, grants, insurance, etc.   The whole system fails.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2017, 07:38:59 pm »

Exactly. We need all three. We do need single payer. I'm glad we agree on something.

I hope you realize that a significant number of people will oppose any changes - even if they benefit them - just out of fear. 
That Obamacare is a failure.  I'm afraid that it must be either repealed before it collapses completely, or - as it looks like what will actually happen - is that it will collapse completely.  In cold political terms.. I think the number of people who would be thrilled to not be required to purchase health care plans that they don't want  outnumber the people who would be pissed off about it. 

One more thing to consider.. the VA system of healthcare is a disaster.   That being the case, why should we expect that the federal government can manage healthcare for the entire population?  The federal government.. and really all levels of government.. are terrible at managing anything.  This country was built upon the premise of free-markets and competition.   When you impose subsidies, grants, insurance, etc.   The whole system fails.

Are you implying no funding for Veterans? Wow you ultra conservatives really want to save every penny.
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