Australia gets to vote on same sex marriage
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« on: September 11, 2017, 12:39:30 am »

:)Finally we get to vote!  However, in my opoinion it is just a survey to say the government is listening to the wishes of the voters.
This postal vote, yep a postal vote, is non binding to parliament, and has already brought out the biggots and the religous cranks with all the false information regarding same sex marriage etc., some have even said that if passed this will allow their sons to wear dresses to school and that schools will have to teach about homosexuality as well?
I don't care what others say, I'm voting yes.
It will be interesting to see what eventually happens when the postal "vote" is counted, and what action, if any, the current government takes.
 
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2017, 03:26:45 am »

I hope all goes well!!
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2017, 06:27:33 am »

I hope all goes well!!

Hopefully all will be, but many haven't received their "voting" papers yet?  Myself included  Sad
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2017, 08:54:58 pm »

I hope all goes well!!

Hopefully all will be, but many haven't received their "voting" papers yet?  Myself included  Sad

What are the chances of the vote going with Yes? Will it be a surprising result like the US Election or Brexit?
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2017, 02:47:40 am »

I hope all goes well!!

Hopefully all will be, but many haven't received their "voting" papers yet?  Myself included  Sad

What are the chances of the vote going with Yes? Will it be a surprising result like the US Election or Brexit?

Going by past surveys done by media, and other sources etc., the majority of the population are in favour of a YES vote, but who knows? If the NO campaigners, religous sealots etc., keep up the false advertising that they are doing, they might just get the result they want.   Cry hopefully not.
Will have to wait and see what the outcome is I guess, but that is just the first step in a long way to go if the YES campaign win. 
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2017, 06:12:35 pm »

I hope all goes well!!

Hopefully all will be, but many haven't received their "voting" papers yet?  Myself included  Sad

What are the chances of the vote going with Yes? Will it be a surprising result like the US Election or Brexit?

Going by past surveys done by media, and other sources etc., the majority of the population are in favour of a YES vote, but who knows? If the NO campaigners, religous sealots etc., keep up the false advertising that they are doing, they might just get the result they want.   Cry hopefully not.
Will have to wait and see what the outcome is I guess, but that is just the first step in a long way to go if the YES campaign win. 

Is this a Brexit/Clinton situation where the polls aren't likely to be entirely accurate?
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2017, 02:31:22 am »

I hope all goes well!!

Hopefully all will be, but many haven't received their "voting" papers yet?  Myself included  Sad

What are the chances of the vote going with Yes? Will it be a surprising result like the US Election or Brexit?

Going by past surveys done by media, and other sources etc., the majority of the population are in favour of a YES vote, but who knows? If the NO campaigners, religous sealots etc., keep up the false advertising that they are doing, they might just get the result they want.   Cry hopefully not.
Will have to wait and see what the outcome is I guess, but that is just the first step in a long way to go if the YES campaign win. 

Is this a Brexit/Clinton situation where the polls aren't likely to be entirely accurate?

No idea to be honest, and from what I've heard and seen of the whole thing so far, there are many people that have not recieved thier voting paper yet, myself included, and that to me makes me wonder and worry that this is a total farce on the governments hehalf to be honest.
 
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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 09:17:37 am »

I hope all goes well!!

Hopefully all will be, but many haven't received their "voting" papers yet?  Myself included  Sad

What are the chances of the vote going with Yes? Will it be a surprising result like the US Election or Brexit?

Going by past surveys done by media, and other sources etc., the majority of the population are in favour of a YES vote, but who knows? If the NO campaigners, religous sealots etc., keep up the false advertising that they are doing, they might just get the result they want.   Cry hopefully not.
Will have to wait and see what the outcome is I guess, but that is just the first step in a long way to go if the YES campaign win. 

Is this a Brexit/Clinton situation where the polls aren't likely to be entirely accurate?

No idea to be honest, and from what I've heard and seen of the whole thing so far, there are many people that have not recieved thier voting paper yet, myself included, and that to me makes me wonder and worry that this is a total farce on the governments hehalf to be honest.
 

...This is disappointing. I hope the YES faction wins.
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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2017, 07:52:13 pm »

I hope Australians will have their rights. World is changing better for gay folks.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 02:56:28 am »

The vote outcome will be announced tomorrow.

As may have been explained before:

* A YES vote majority will not automatically mean SSM is legal in Australia. It will allow for our government to have a vote in parliament - a "conscience" vote which means you vote as YOU see fit, not your official party line (which is usually how most things go in our parliament)

* A NO vote would automatically mean it is a NO and no discussion will be had in our parliament. Although a bill may be put forward, it is unlikely it will be put through or will it be held up/ignored until 2018

* The YES vs NO has been a mixed bag of politics - the usual left vs right is obvious but there is a middle overlap which is religious vs non religious, economic conservatives who are left leaning in social stuff vs more socially conservative left leaners etc

* The "NO" side of politics have said that even if it is YES they will not vote YES automatically and will judge it after the result

* The "NO" side have also said that they want harder restrictions and have started tabling bills to be put forward that would allow people to not provide services (the good old cake stuff etc) based on religious grounds (this is all muddy and mostly involves hard right religious people who do not understand that these laws are already in Law for heterosexuals anyway, they just want it specific to push a point)

As soon as the % comes through then the drama will start - a 49% No vs 51% yes for example is *technically* a win but then the NO will not take that and if it is a larger majority then reactions will be very different.. most are tipping over 60% YES as a conservative estimate

Some things to note

The vote was NOT compulsory BUT had a very high response rate

"A bigger percentage of us have voted in the survey than the Irish did in their referendum on the same issue; Brits in the Brexit poll and even Americans in the presidential elections."

The "NO" side have pretty much conceded already BUT they feel the % is what is important. Esp since it is a % count scenario unlike other votes such as the US system where a republican system is in place. This vote is purely count what is there.

if 100 vote - 51 say YES then it YES - BUT - in parliament a minister who knows his electorate voted 75% no in a conservative area may vote no to reflect this etc etc

One of the major parties has said that regardless of ant outcome - they will legislate SSM in their first 100 days if they succeed in next election - and considering the mess our current government is in, then they may get in
 
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