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« on: October 11, 2017, 10:55:08 am »

The Flash is my favorite TV show based on a comic book -- I just love it. It was the first live-action media to explore the multiverse, it's layered with fun references, the characters are well drawn and easy to love (or hate).

Anyway, season four started today and I'd love to start talking about it.

What's up with Killer Frost/Catlyn?
What did you think of Barry coming out of the Speedforce?
The villain at the end in The Thinker. Any thoughts on what his plan might be?
Is Barry the type of guy you go for? How about Cisco? HR?

Come on, talk about The Flash!  Cheers

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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 02:19:09 am »

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Is Barry the type of guy you go for?
 

The only Flash characters who've turned me on are Eddie Thawne (Rick Cosnett), Mark Mardon the Weather Wizard (Liam McIntyre), Ronnie Raymond (Robbie Amell), Zoom (Teddy Sears) and Girder (Greg Finley).  There are probably others, but I can't think of any at the moment.

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What's up with Killer Frost/Catlyn?


Same shit, different season, I guess.  Now she's just switching back and forth without any tacky, glowing blue jewelry.  I wish they'd just get around to the Killer Frost vs. Captain Cold fight I've been drooling for.

Random thoughts: 
1.) Wow, Cisco finally became a superhero. 
  
2.) I bet Barry picked up a mental hitchhiker in the speed force.  "This house is bitchin'" could be the hitchhiker's opinion of Barry's body. 
 
3.) BITCH IN CHARGE isn't a good look for Iris. 

4.) I find it funny that the ONE episode where Barry is finally ACCURATE about being the fastest man alive (not Savitar, not Wally, not Zoom, not Thawne) is also one of the few episodes where he doesn't open the show by making that boast.
 
5.) So the immortal "Speed Force alien" couldn't find a way to "balance" herself, but a mere human could figure it out in a few months.  Also, did Cisco say that his solution was to "trick" the Speed Force alien?  Doesn't that imply that she didn't really need Barry?  Barry better make a concentrated effort to stay out of the speed force from now on.  Otherwise, he'll probably get an interesting reception the next time he tries to reset time. 
 
6.) Cisco used to work with the CCPD.  Is it even possible that they don't know he's Vibe.  Cisco's look IS pretty fucking unmistakable, after all.

7.) I'll laugh heartily if Barry is instantly given his job back after apparently having a MAJOR psychotic break.  After that, I wonder how Joe will cover his ass.  "Uh....he was jerked around by the airline on his way back home from his sabbatical, so he rented a car, drove to the middle of nowhere, stripped naked, and attacked a pick-up.

8.) The people in the pick-up saw Barry running at super speed and then saw his body crackling with electricity.  Do you think they included all that in their police report?  In their insurance claim?

9.) EXACTLY what did Wells bequeath to Barry?  We know he got the Aircraft Hanger of Justice, and we suspect he got enough money to pay for a "bitchin'" apartment, but the writers are still being needlessly coy about Barry's assets.  And since Iris never married Barry, how does she have access to that money in order to make the rent?

10.) HOW THE HELL DOES "TEAM KID-FLASH/VIBE" MAKE A LIVING???  Are they working on military contracts during commercial breaks?  Is their income coming from H.R.'s S.T.A.R. Labs Museum?  Whatever they do must pay a lot if they can lure Iris away from her reporter job and hire her as....um......boss(y)??
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2017, 02:32:55 pm »

The only Flash characters who've turned me on are Eddie Thawne (Rick Cosnett), Mark Mardon the Weather Wizard (Liam McIntyre), Ronnie Raymond (Robbie Amell), Zoom (Teddy Sears) and Girder (Greg Finley).  There are probably others, but I can't think of any at the moment.

Same shit, different season, I guess.  Now she's just switching back and forth without any tacky, glowing blue jewelry.  I wish they'd just get around to the Killer Frost vs. Captain Cold fight I've been drooling for.

9.) EXACTLY what did Wells bequeath to Barry?  We know he got the Aircraft Hanger of Justice, and we suspect he got enough money to pay for a "bitchin'" apartment, but the writers are still being needlessly coy about Barry's assets.  And since Iris never married Barry, how does she have access to that money in order to make the rent?

10.) HOW THE HELL DOES "TEAM KID-FLASH/VIBE" MAKE A LIVING???  Are they working on military contracts during commercial breaks?  Is their income coming from H.R.'s S.T.A.R. Labs Museum?  Whatever they do must pay a lot if they can lure Iris away from her reporter job and hire her as....um......boss(y)??


For you, if you haven't seen it. Your fourth point reminded me.  Wink
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For a Captain Cold vs Killer Frost fight they'd have to bring Capt back from his future death. I've been hoping that the Legends "breaking time" might bring both Reverse Flash and Captain Cold back. You think either are coming back?

To your point five, the Speedforce exists out of space and time so it/they already knew, knows, and will know and it took Barry to help him, thus he came out of the Speedforce feeling "light" and reborn. I'm still kinda hoping that when they end The Flash that they'll create the Speedforce as they did in the comics: Barry Allen is the Speedforce.

As for finances, same is true of Green Arrow. Oliver became poor, Felicity ran Ray's company into the ground and yet they're able to afford that bunker with all the toys? One day it'll be revealed that Felicity and Cisco are taking criminal funds for the team -- that would make me so happy.  Grin

I don't think Barry picked up anything an STD (speedforce transmitted disease). I'm guessing that he came back with future knowledge that Cisco's algorithms are too primitive to tackle. Remember that Barry built Gideon. It might have been his trip in the Speedforce that gave him knowledge of advanced mathematics to make Gideon a reality.
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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2017, 07:38:29 am »

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For you, if you haven't seen it. Your fourth point reminded me.

Thanks for the clip.  No, I hadn't seen it.  Great stuff.  I have no luck finding superhero humor clips on YouTube.  Feel free to recommend more.

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For a Captain Cold vs Killer Frost fight they'd have to bring Capt back from his future death. I've been hoping that the Legends "breaking time" might bring both Reverse Flash and Captain Cold back. You think either are coming back?

I'm still trying to figure out why Wentworth Miller left to begin with.  I kinda thought "The Flash" had recharged his career (it seems that way in his IMDB page), so why leave "Legends" after one season?  More "Prison Break" to film?  In any case, I hope he comes back.  I'd love it if Barry went to another universe and encountered the REAL Rogues, wearing their REAL costumes and having their REAL powers.

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As for finances, same is true of Green Arrow. Oliver became poor, Felicity ran Ray's company into the ground and yet they're able to afford that bunker with all the toys?

When Slade was attacking their wealth, Moira had Oliver and Thea sign papers to transfer some of their savings to a safe place.  I thought it was a trick by Slade to get every last dime, but nothing was ever mentioned about it, so I assume it was legit.  Therefore, I think Oliver has a few paltry millions left, which would explain his purchases.

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Remember that Barry built Gideon. It might have been his trip in the Speedforce that gave him knowledge of advanced mathematics to make Gideon a reality.

I suppose.  I always thought that the reason Barry was able to create Gideon was because, well....let me paraphrase Wally West from a Flash comic I read years ago: "Speedsters like to move at superspeed whenever we can, thus creating lots of spare time.  We also don't sleep much, which gives us even more free time.  We tend to read during that time.  You can read lots of books while other people are sleeping, ...or blinking.  Trust me, never play Trivial Pursuit with a Flash."

Barry exhibited this ability during the show.  I believe he was doing research into running faster.  IIRC, he irritated one of the Wellses by doing this.  Anyway, I just assumed that Barry decided to devote himself to researching computer systems and, seconds later, created Gideon.



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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2017, 03:06:36 pm »

That was so much fun. I'm really happy that they've lightened the tone of the series -- it was so dark for too long.

Next week looks like it'll be funny, too.

That Iris line grated on me -- we're The Flash. Um, no, honey. Go walk your inferior non-meta self to the corner where you belong.

Did you not love Wally's new look? That haircut suits him so much better.

Was not a fan of Cisco and Gypsy, mostly cuz Cisco does not look good in a Tux. But you know they're setting up a fight between Cisco and her father. I wonder how they're going to resolve that.

Of all the powers the meta's have had, the power of tech is one I'd love to have -- I would cause such chaos. I'm hoping The Thinker has bigger plans than revenge for him. Any thoughts on what they're going to do with The Thinker? I'm guessing he needs Barry to increase his mental powers by...? Not sure. Perhaps time travel?

Thoughts?

Oh, yeah, did you watch Legends? Did you notice the TV in the background during the flashback? It was Central City six months ago during the Speedforce storm. Awesome! Plus the Arrow reveal at the Dr's office and Arrow's Batman reveal today -- I love all this interconnectedness.   
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2017, 05:26:27 am »

I've watched the first episode of season 4 and I enjoyed it.  An optimistic and caring Barry is more interesting than a brooding, nihilistic Barry.  Largely due to Grant Gustin being better at 'perky'.

It's good to see the characters supporting one another again.
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