Sexual Consent in the Gay Community -- have you been...?
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« on: October 23, 2017, 03:53:50 am »

Oddly, someone pulled up a comment I made last year on Facebook about being sexually harassed in The Sports Connection (a gay gym in WeHo) and said I was against it because I must not have gotten any attention.

Quite the opposite.

I have such mixed feelings on this issue... I can't be the only one, so let's have a conversation about it.

By today's standards as to what constitutes rape (which I do not agree with) I have been raped multiple times. I said no. They persisted. I said no again lather, rinse, repeat -- and he's in my ass. (On an aside, this happens a lot in Asian culture, especially here in Japan.) With each one of my (ahem) rapes, I could have easily fought them off. Had I turned violent, no doubt in my mind it would have ended. To call what happened rape is an insult to people who are held down and beaten into submission they can't easily get away from.

At the same time, the meaning of being sexually accosted takes its impact from how people around us feel about it. When I was fresh meat in WeHo clubs, being touched was normal, something you laughed about later with your friends like, "did you see that troll grabbing my ass -- like if ever...".

I refuse to be told I'm a victim because someone acted inappropriately towards me. I will not do it. I think this attitude has disempowered people. When someone does something you don't like, just tell them. Twice or three times if need be. That was the learning curve when I came out in the late 80's early 90's.

On the other hand, I do understand the fuss. I don't want people jerking off to me (or near me) in the sauna. I don't care if it's in the gay part of town and you're aroused, put it away and take it to the showers -- or home.

Yeah, honestly I haven't firmly sorted out how I feel about this, so discussion is appreciated.

Here's the article Flozen posted elsewhere that got me thinking about it.

https://www.gmfa.org.uk/fs162-consent-and-the-gay-community
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 04:00:22 pm »

When I was younger and still went clubbing, I used to get groped by both genders.   

Not surprisingly, women were far, far the worst.    I think this is because women are constantly told they are always the victim and nothing they do can be seen as bad since they are always the victims.   

How many millions of videos, articles and whatnot do we have telling us the women can NOT be sexist (blacks can't be racist, etc) based on nothing more than their genetics.   



I never liked being grabbed, but I would never, ever consider it "rape".     



Hell, there's that video from a couple years ago where some cuck was interviewing some feminist (both sitting on semi facing sofas).   The feminist claimed it was "rape" to speak to a woman without her permission.    Besides the obvious about words being "rape", they never explained how you can get a woman's permission in the first place without raping her by asking her if you can speak to her.

The "Dear Colleagues" letter from the Obama administration to colleges changed the rules and definitions of what rape was, to include anything and everything.   
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 01:01:25 am »

When I was younger and still went clubbing, I used to get groped by both genders.   

Not surprisingly, women were far, far the worst.    I think this is because women are constantly told they are always the victim and nothing they do can be seen as bad since they are always the victims.   

How many millions of videos, articles and whatnot do we have telling us the women can NOT be sexist (blacks can't be racist, etc) based on nothing more than their genetics.   



I never liked being grabbed, but I would never, ever consider it "rape".     



Hell, there's that video from a couple years ago where some cuck was interviewing some feminist (both sitting on semi facing sofas).   The feminist claimed it was "rape" to speak to a woman without her permission.    Besides the obvious about words being "rape", they never explained how you can get a woman's permission in the first place without raping her by asking her if you can speak to her.

The "Dear Colleagues" letter from the Obama administration to colleges changed the rules and definitions of what rape was, to include anything and everything.   

I wasn't groped, but I used to get hit on by both males and females a log.  It always creeped me out.  I would have men following me around in parks, on the streets, in library, etc.   The women in Amsterdam were trying to get my attention 10 times as much as anybody else I saw. 
Only one woman seems interest in me these days.. this lady in a pet store.  She has a husband who owns the pet store who is a jerk.  She hates working there.  She appreciates having me come in and give her useful information.   Her husband just feeds her bullshit.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 10:46:25 am »

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scottish-barmen-banned-wearing-kilts-drunk-women-keep-groping-their-penises-1510817


You'll find countless articles like this on the internet.   

You will also find countless articles, by feminists, declaring it's ok for women to do this because it's empowering women.   These cunts will justify the double standards with all manner of mental gymnastics. 
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