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« on: August 08, 2019, 09:44:56 am »

Over the last 4 years, there have been several documentaries, reports, comments, tweets, etc, etc about how shitty and rat-infested Baltimore is.  These comments are from liberals, such as Bernie, PBS, and many others.

No one cared. 

Trump says exactly the same thing and suddenly it's racist.   


A conservative group went there and cleaned up a large area and the locals were grateful.   Liberals were pissed off.   I do have to ask why the liberals havent lifted a finger to help the people living in the shitty parts of Baltimore, but get extremely butt hurt when conservatives do.

Baltimore is a liberal city, run by Dems, and it keeps falling into the abyss, like all other Dem cities.  Baltimore has rampant corruption in its city government and police dept.
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2019, 07:49:07 am »

I actually agree with you on most of this. Baltimore is HEAVILY corrupt and has been for a very long time, even back in the days when Republican Sprio Agnew was involved with city politics there---which is why he had to be removed as Vice President under Nixon. However, for me, I believe President Trump is a racist for the things he has said and done. His word choices when describing black people, spaces occupied by black people, and nearly everything in connection with black people is universally different than how he describes white people and their communities. West Virginia has a serious poverty problem but I've never heard him refer to West Virginia as "rat-infested" or "incompetently run" or "shithole." There are white-majority places in West Virginia, Mississippi, Ohio, etc. where the communities are just as drug-ridden, crime-ridden, and filled with corrupt politicians as Baltimore and they are never referred to as "infested" with anything by President Trump.

Still, it's an opinion that he's racist and I wish the media would stress that more in their reporting of him instead of instantly labeling him as racist as fact because none of us truly know what's in his heart and mind. Unless he himself says he's a racist, it's an opinion and not a fact. Those of us who believe he is indeed racist hold that opinion because of his words and actions. I heard there is a tape where he refers to a black person using the n-word and if that's true, it will change the opinion/fact dynamic for me. If a tape is released of him referring to a black person with that term then it will be a fact that he is racist. Using that term in context does not make a white person racist; however, calling a black person that term is and always will be racist because of this country's history. Hopefully, the tape is a myth because it would be the end of his presidency if it's true and is released to the media.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2019, 09:37:48 am »

Do you also believe that PBS is racist for reporting on Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, etc, etc, etc and their horrible problems?   What about Bernie, Biden and the countless other Dems?

"Shitholes" is an accurate statement.  It's racist and a lie to call these countries shitholes until Trump wants to deport them, then liberals say "you cant sen them back to that shithole".      Liberals want it both ways. 

Bernie, PBS and many others have called Baltimore "rat-infested".   I saw both PBS shows before Trump's comments.   

Oddly, it was (mostly) white Trumpers who went to Baltimore and cleaned it up.   The black residents were thankful.  Their Congressman hasn't done a thing for his district in the 26 years in office.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2019, 12:45:42 am »

Do you also believe that PBS is racist for reporting on Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, etc, etc, etc and their horrible problems?   What about Bernie, Biden and the countless other Dems?

Was the term "infested" actually used? Do you have a source for that information? Did PBS also attack affluent or middle-class areas that are predominately black the way President Trump has (i.e. Rep. John Lewis GA district)? Until the president refers to white crime-ridden and drug-ridden areas as infested, your argument is futile.

"Shitholes" is an accurate statement.  It's racist and a lie to call these countries shitholes until Trump wants to deport them, then liberals say "you cant sen them back to that shithole".      Liberals want it both ways. 

I would not call a place like Sierra Leone a shithole since it was white people who ravaged the country for its diamonds and it's white people who continue to exploit parts of Africa. While there have been problems with the African continent since the beginning of time, you cannot deny the savagery whites from around the world have wreaked on many African nations and other black nations around the world. I'm not just talking about slavery by the way. I'm not saying white people are the root of all problems in said nations, but that they have largely contributed to those problems historically and currently.
That being said, once again, how come Mississippi isn't a "shithole?" How about rural Alabama, West Virginia, etc.? Have you been to those parts of the country and seen how the white people there live? Those are Republican-run states, towns, and neighborhoods filled with crime and drugs, including an increasing amount of opioid addiction and death. Which brings to mind, how come drug use is viewed differently when it comes to white people and black people?


Bernie, PBS and many others have called Baltimore "rat-infested".   I saw both PBS shows before Trump's comments.   

Oddly, it was (mostly) white Trumpers who went to Baltimore and cleaned it up.   The black residents were thankful.  Their Congressman hasn't done a thing for his district in the 26 years in office.

I have no defense for Bernie, I never have supported him and never will because he's ignorant to America's continuing race problem. Can you provide evidence of PBS themselves using the term "rat-infested" and not some opinion from someone they spoke to? You brought this up; therefore, you should show your evidence to strengthen your argument. Rep. Cummings is a member of Congress. While he is responsible for representing his constituents in Congress, what do you propose he could do outside of requesting federal help to fix the part of Baltimore he represents? Shouldn't there be more education on voting for local candidates that can be held accountable instead of focusing on one person be the goal to fixing local issues? I'm sure you know he doesn't represent all of Baltimore and that they have recently had corruption issues with their previous mayor.
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2019, 08:14:39 am »

Trump attacked the district of a Congressman who attacked him.    Of course, to Dems, you can't disagree with a non-white about anything or you're a racist.  Rocky is a racist because he punched Creed in a boxing match. 


But these places are shitholes.  You and your fellow Dems even admit that when Trump wants to deport people back to these places. 

Slavery existed long before white people and it still exists to this very day in many places in Africa, the Middle East, and the Far East.    The word "slave" comes from the Slavonic, now Slavic people who were enslaved en masse by the Moors and Ottoman Empire.

Many countries are shitholes, with rampant corruption.   You can't blame white people for Mugabe murdering his best friend so he could rule the country instead and being a corrupt dictator.   Unless you are saying that black people have no agency. 


Sure, many places in the US are shitholes that most people wouldn't want to live, but they are far from being the countries Trump is talking about.   

Like I said before, Dems scream that these places are lovely until Trump wants to deport someone, then they become shitholes.   Make up your minds.



Ok, maybe PBS didn't directly say "rat-infested" but their 2 shows proved it to be true.    They showed the rat infestations and piles of garbage.

Cummings cares so much about his district that a bunch of (mostly) white conservatives had to go in and clean it up because he couldn't be bothered to do anything for 26 years.   Again, hating on white people while giving a black man a pass. 
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2019, 06:02:30 am »

Trump attacked the district of a Congressman who attacked him.    Of course, to Dems, you can't disagree with a non-white about anything or you're a racist.  Rocky is a racist because he punched Creed in a boxing match. 

Congressman Lewis's district is NOT rat-infested and has very low crime, yet the president decided to lie as usual and described the district as rat-infested. He always uses the term infested to describe majority-black areas, no matter how rich or poor the black area is. Hmm, if only there were a term to describe his racial and prejudicial behavior...Oh well.

But these places are shitholes.  You and your fellow Dems even admit that when Trump wants to deport people back to these places. 

Slavery existed long before white people and it still exists to this very day in many places in Africa, the Middle East, and the Far East.    The word "slave" comes from the Slavonic, now Slavic people who were enslaved en masse by the Moors and Ottoman Empire.

Many countries are shitholes, with rampant corruption.   You can't blame white people for Mugabe murdering his best friend so he could rule the country instead and being a corrupt dictator.   Unless you are saying that black people have no agency. 

Can you show me any evidence where anyone other than the president and his supporters have called any country a "shithole?" I do not, will not, and have not supported placing 100% blame on any country that became horrible after being either (1) ravaged by America and/or (2) devastated after accidentally/purposely allowing white people from around the world to disrupt and divide cultures within the country. Whether you like it or not, white people have contributed to a lot of brutality around the world. There are places where there were natural divisions and those divisions made countries brutal and unsafe overtime, but there are also countries where it was the intervention of Europe and later the US that caused a lot of anger, pain, and brutality.

Once again, slavery is not the only institution I'm referring to.


Sure, many places in the US are shitholes that most people wouldn't want to live, but they are far from being the countries Trump is talking about.   

Like I said before, Dems scream that these places are lovely until Trump wants to deport someone, then they become shitholes.   Make up your minds.



Ok, maybe PBS didn't directly say "rat-infested" but their 2 shows proved it to be true.    They showed the rat infestations and piles of garbage.

Cummings cares so much about his district that a bunch of (mostly) white conservatives had to go in and clean it up because he couldn't be bothered to do anything for 26 years.   Again, hating on white people while giving a black man a pass. 

You're still overlooking the point I'm making. President Donald Trump has yet to refer to a county, city, town, neighborhood, etc. that is majority white and overrun with drugs and death as "infested." You can dance around the point I'm making all you want but this point is the basis of why I personally believe the president is racist. I don't agree with the media painting him as racist because it's up to how someone personally perceives one's words and actions and the media shouldn't tell us who is or isn't racist. For me not to see the president as a racist, he'd have to stop only referring to majority-black areas---regardless of their socioeconomic status---as "infested" and actually propose ideas on how to make the troubled areas better by working with local leaders instead of calling out random black congressmen who may or may not even represent the entirety of a city. Some cities have two, three, or even four representatives and one mayor. Why can't the president work with a mayor to better an area or inspire the people to vote for a mayor they can hold accountable? Once again, the fact that he singles out black congressmen/congresswomen and calls their districts "infested" kind of sums up why many are calling him a racist now.

Also, let's not forget why Trump targeted Rep. Cummings. As the Chairman of the Oversight Committee in the House of Representatives, it is Elijah Cummings' job to provide oversight of the government. Donald Trump never turned over his tax returns and is still profiting from his business as a sitting president. I don't give a rat's ass if he found some loophole that allows it, I want him investigated to make sure he's not taking money from foreign governments and making decisions for this country based off of what foreign governments want. For him to attack Rep. Cummings for making sure we get some transparency out of this crooked administration further proves he has no business being president. And shame on those who got us here. I don't care how much time goes by, I will always remember what this country did by electing someone like Trump as president. Like everything else this country did horribly wrong, Trump's presidency will go down in history books as a dark and ugly stain on America's legacy.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2019, 07:47:18 am »

You don't have to use the word "shithole" to describe a shithole.   Dems are offended by Trump calling these places shitholes, but then use similar language to describe these places when Trump wants to deport them back to these places.   Dems want everyone to believe that these places are utopian paradises until Trump wants to send people back there, then it's a shithole that no one wants to live in.

The western world is turning into a shithole because we're letting in all these 3rd worlders.   Australia has African machete gangs.  The UK is 3rd in the world for acid attacks.  Sweden has migrants throwing hand grenades at police and no go areas.   Look at how lovely Paris is.    Paris is a shithole.   


Turning over your tax return is not a legal requirement.    Trump "leaked" his own tax return and it turned into a "nothing burger", as Rachel Maddow found out.

Dems are not doing "oversight" they are trying to ruin Trump.   Mueller found nothing.   

Dems refuse to work with Trump because they are butt hurt that he's no Killary.   

Obama did fuck all for the country.   He race baited and spread proven lies, as did most Dems, including my own Congresswoman Shiela Jackson Lee.   


Your party cares less about you and your fellow blacks than they do about illegals.   New York state has money for illegals to go to college, but very little for citizens.   California, likewise, has money for illegals, but none for the homeless and poor citizens.


In 2015, Scotland officially had 38,000 homeless citizens.   The excuse was that there are not enough welfare houses for them.   Oddly, they were able to find 2,000 homes for migrants that they imported from Lybia.   





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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2019, 07:50:29 am »

> orange man bad

I think Trump and even Cummings are actors in a way so I do not want to think too much about what actors happen to say and why.
Probably they try to use drama/histeria to their advantage somehow.

> white people have contributed to a lot of brutality

Because they acheived level of economic, technological and cultural progress other countries have failed to acheive.

Countries that fail to acheive certain level can be called shitholes by these parameters.

Calling some failed country a shithole does not make a white guy a "racist".
It is either true or false statement.

Anyway the west is the source of a lot of greatness at this point.
And there are specific crimes also (Lybia and Iraq are good candidates) but I doubt that Haiti or even slavery is on the list.
Stopping slavery in the civilized world is probably on the list of "things to be greatful for".

There is a bunch of other things on the list that happen to be ignored by some individuals who also like to blame "America" or "white people" for other countries being shitholes.
But say europeans had a lot of wars among each other and they are still doing well.
And for example Japan lost the war.
And japaneese do not blame americans for living in a shithole because they are not living in one.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2019, 12:51:04 am »

I have yet to hear an explanation for why EVERY majority-black area of the country---regardless of socioeconomic status---is referred to as "infested" while actual majority-white poverty-stricken, drug-ridden areas aren't called that term. Can anyone provide an explanation? If not, then how exactly are you going to persuade me that President Trump isn't racist? My opinion is that he is racist and one of the many reasons why I think so is because of the difference in terminology he uses to describe black people and white people. Can anyone provide me with evidence of President Trump referring to a non-black area of the country as "infested?" Yes or no are simple answers for a simple question.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2019, 08:24:16 am »

I have a feeling you are internalizing things based on your race.   

Not every majority area regardless of socioeconomic status is  INFESTED.    I doubt you can show any evidence that Trump or anyone else has ever said that. 

Trump attacks those that attack him.  That is well known.   I doubt many Dems from the Wes Virginia hollers are constantly attacking me. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2019, 05:42:31 am »

Why not attack using valid, sound arguments to counter what his critics are saying? Why does he have to go full-on racist every single time? If I were to criticize the president in person, he would most likely make the racist and invalid counter-argument that I'm an uneducated thug who has probably spent time in prison when in reality I come from a working-class Christian family and I have a bachelor's degree. I'm done with this president and if the 2018 midterms are any clue, the 3 states responsible for this president have changed their minds on him. If they haven't, Democrats need to win the Senate back and keep the House with enough numbers to make sure he is powerless and can't even veto anything. If we're in recession by the election, it will be a Democratic landslide. His racism won't matter then because he'll simply be a figurehead with no real power.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2019, 07:19:05 am »

I think you are conflating criticism with racism.    Let me guess, you get your "news" from The Root.


It's funny how you ignore all the good Trump has done for non-whites.    The jobless rate for non-whites is it's lowest in an extremely long time, if not forever. 


Also, Trump is right.   If you are gonna sling shit, make sure your house is in order first.   
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2019, 05:15:05 am »

This president has done nothing to help non-whites except get a supermajority of us on the same page to vote him the hell out next year. It is a fact that more people are working; however, one person is working multiple jobs just to make ends meet and is still in poverty. Let's see how well the economy is doing when his tariffs and tax cuts bring on a bigger recession than 2008.

And once again, he has never referred to white poverty-stricken drug-ridden areas as "infested" before. Ever. The moment he does that on live TV or writes it on Twitter, then I won't use it as an example of why he's racist. I'm pretty sure you know he won't stop though. It wouldn't matter if the person who attacks him is rich, poor, gay, straight, etc.; if they're black he's going to call their city/town/neighborhood "infested" because he's a bigot and that's what bigots do. They see all black people as piss poor hoodlums with no values no matter where we come from. Donald Trump truly is no different than the bigots I've encountered my whole life in South Carolina.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 07:46:57 am »

It says a lot about you that you can't even admit that non-white employment records are the highest they have been since they've kept such records.

Tax cuts don't tend to bring recessions. 


And once again, he doesn't tend to get attacked by Reps from poverty-stricken white areas.

Let's not forget that it's your party that cares more about illegals than poverty-stricken areas regardless of skin color.

NYC spends 10x more on sending illegals to college than they do on all the services the families of fallen soldier's & first responder's families ($27 million vs $2.7 million).  The Chairwoman admitted they needed to do more for them, but there was no money left over.    Service to your country/state is less important than being illegal. 


Like in Scotland, there's no money for the native homeless population, but there's plenty of money for economic migrants.   Scotland raised income taxes to bolster welfare, but nothing is improving on the ground, except that we're importing more people from 3rd world shitholes so they can get a welfare check.   
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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2019, 05:30:40 am »

It says a lot about you that you can't even admit that non-white employment records are the highest they have been since they've kept such records.

Let's give a big hand for low wage McDonald's jobs and other jobs like it where non-whites have to work 3x harder than whites and STILL receive less money and opportunities Cheers Thanks to our Lord & Savior aka the "Chosen One" Donald J. Trump!

I'm so glad I never have and never will drink the orange Kool-Aid. When the recession comes, I'll be proud to say I NEVER supported the criminal-in-chief.


Tax cuts don't tend to bring recessions. 


And once again, he doesn't tend to get attacked by Reps from poverty-stricken white areas.

Let's not forget that it's your party that cares more about illegals than poverty-stricken areas regardless of skin color.

NYC spends 10x more on sending illegals to college than they do on all the services the families of fallen soldier's & first responder's families ($27 million vs $2.7 million).  The Chairwoman admitted they needed to do more for them, but there was no money left over.    Service to your country/state is less important than being illegal. 


Like in Scotland, there's no money for the native homeless population, but there's plenty of money for economic migrants.   Scotland raised income taxes to bolster welfare, but nothing is improving on the ground, except that we're importing more people from 3rd world shitholes so they can get a welfare check.   

He's been attacked by white congressmen and white congresswomen who represent districts from all over the socioeconomic spectrum and never called their districts "infested." John Lewis' district isn't poverty-stricken and it was called "infested." How come he never calls out Katie Porter (D-CA45) and call her district "infested?" She's attacked him plenty of times and he's never mentioned her name. He never seems to mention white people who call him out and when he does, he's never as disgusting with them as he is with black people who call him out. He never even used the term "infested" with Hillary Clinton. It's always with black people. Hmm  Blond
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« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2019, 06:39:40 am »

> STILL receive less money

Employed person should earn more then unemployed person.

It is almost like you perceive every problem as if it is because of white people.
Looking at the political circus in the US one can notice that this obession is quite common.

Low unemployment is there not for "non-white voters". It s for productive individuals with potential.
Anyway "non-white voters" as a group have a clear direction.

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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2019, 07:19:59 am »

Blacks who vote Dem tend to believe that whites are the devil, so nothing they (blacks) do is their fault.   

Repub blacks tend to believe in personal responsibility.   


Poor white males get fuck all but wealthy privileged blacks get AA.   Dem blacks see nothing wrong with that.
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2019, 03:37:30 am »

Once again, if the economy was doing so well then everyone would be able to work at the most 1 job and be able to at least pay their bills and not qualify for food stamps. Instead, we have people working 2,3, and even 4 jobs and are still struggling. Those at the top who offer employment were given pretty a big tax cut December 2017. Where are the opportunities to pull people out of poverty as a result of giving the tax cut? Where are your stats from reputable sources showing an unbelievable drop in the poverty rate and an expansion of the middle class as a result of the tax cut and the deregulation this president has been pushing since taking office?

You have no data. You have no evidence. All you have are childish accusations of Communism at someone who is a supporter of regulated Capitalism.
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2019, 07:46:00 am »

Clearly, your only evidence is from The Root, CNN, MSNBC and the like. 

Do you honestly expect everyone to have a utopian job, just because unemployment rates for nonwhites began are the lowest ever. 

I bet you didn't have the same lunatic claims when Obama bragged about how great his figures were.   Like some many of your kind, you suffer from self loathing and racism of low expectations.   
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